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To: DiogenesLamp

No it’s not. The future of atheism is learning to live with each other. In the same way the various sects of Christianity figured it out.

I’m not fighting against a belief. I know Muslims, perfectly fine people who can go on at length about how Islamic terrorists violate basic tenants of the religion. They’ve got a lunatic fringe emphasis on the lunatic, and it’s exacerbated by the fact that a lot of the countries they’re from have a vested interest in keeping them riled up and pointed externally. You like to point to the rise of Hitler, well that’s actually a good comparison when it comes to Islam. Germans as a whole weren’t nuts, just enough of them to take over the government, control the flow of information, and keep the not nuts ones at least ignorant.

And it’s not like atheists don’t have beliefs. We just don’t have RELIGIOUS beliefs. I believe in small governments, low taxes, and if you’d expect to get punched in the face for saying that to them in person you probably shouldn’t say it to them online either.


63 posted on 03/27/2015 8:09:22 AM PDT by discostu (The albatross begins with its vengeance A terrible curse a thirst has begun)
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To: discostu
No it’s not. The future of atheism is learning to live with each other. In the same way the various sects of Christianity figured it out.

I think your grasp of the characteristics of human nature is too shallow. I think you need a deeper understanding of what is going on.

Atheism exists because Christianity tamed the baser human instincts to the point where Atheism could exist. The Irony is that Atheists are floating in an Ocean of Christianity, the absence of which will result in a very different social structure, and one which will have no tolerance for Atheists. (Or much of anything else for that matter.)

And it’s not like atheists don’t have beliefs. We just don’t have RELIGIOUS beliefs. I believe in small governments, low taxes, and if you’d expect to get punched in the face for saying that to them in person you probably shouldn’t say it to them online either.

I'm not suggesting you need to have religious beliefs. I'm asserting that our society needs to have religious beliefs. If the foundation of our moral system is disrupted, it is just going to turn ugly.

I have no problems with Atheists. I have problems with Atheists that want to evangelize about Atheism. Convincing everyone that there is no God will only unleash the forces currently held at bay as the result of the widespread belief that there is.

Thomas Jefferson said:

"It does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods, or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg."

The Rebuttal to this is:

"Let my neighbor once persuade himself that there is no God, and he will soon pick my pocket, and break not only my leg but my neck."

And that's what I think too. Modern Atheists are only moral because they grew up in an Ocean of Christianity. If people grow up in an Ocean of Atheism, from whence will come the belief that we should love one another?

Atheists promote the scientific method for dealing with humanity, and when this played out before, we got Eugenics.

I'd rather have some irrational superstition keeping people under some semblance of control, than a scientifically induced clinical detachment allowing their inner Nazi to emerge.

68 posted on 03/27/2015 12:03:39 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp
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