Posted on 03/16/2015 5:01:01 PM PDT by Beave Meister
GLENDALE, Ariz. -- Major League Baseball commissioner Rob Manfred says he has received a formal request from Pete Rose asking that his lifetime ban be lifted and that he will consider the all-time hits leader's request "on its merits."
"I want to make sure I understand all of the details of the Dowd Report and Commissioner [Bart] Giamatti's decision and the agreement that was ultimately reached," Manfred said after a meeting with Los Angeles Dodgers players in Arizona on Monday morning. "I want to hear what Pete has to say, and I'll make a decision once I've done that."
Rose's previous efforts to gain leniency from commissioners Fay Vincent and Bud Selig were never considered.
Rose, 73, played from 1963 to 1986, amassing 4,256 hits, still a major league record. Three years after he retired, Rose agreed to a permanent ban from baseball amid accusations he gambled on games while playing and managing for the Cincinnati Reds.
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“If they let the steroid aholes in, why not Rose?”
Is the penalty for steroid use lifetime expulsion?
Oh, and Rose played in to the 80’s.
I’d guess he used steroids.
He certainly used amphetamines.
Like a lot here have said.
When he dies, he goes in.
Maybe.
I would be OK if he was permitted back in to baseball, if the ban on HOF membership was still in place. That ban could be lifted posthumously, along with Joe Jackson's ban.
yep, barred for life. once he is six feet under, then he can enter the hall of fame. but not until then.
I met Bob Feller in Cooperstown when Mike Schmidt and Richie Ashburn were inducted in 1995. What a delight he was to talk to. He laughed when I asked him how many times Ted Williams took him deep.
End of story, IMHO.
Pete gambled when he knew it was against the rules. Pete got caught gambling.
Apparently, Pete still thinks the rules don't apply to him.
Good ballplayer. A total idiot as an individual.
If I was managing a team in Game 7 of the World Series, 2 outs, bottom of the 9th, score tied, man on third, and I could have any batter in baseball history at the plate, I would pick Pete Rose.
Baseball has let others in with far worse problems.
Name them
Ty Cobb
Yeah, imagine if he hadn’t gambled and instead juiced up on roids and HGH. No problem, he’d already be in the HoF.
The rules against PED’s was late in coming. The gambling rule was there before Rose was born. There is also the signed agreement to the lifetime ban. He has no case
This isn’t about others, Rose was caught and is suffering the consequences and is not being singled out.
He shoulda just kept to beating his wife and fighting dogs, he’d be a Hall ‘O-famer by now.
If they let the steroid aholes in, why not Rose?
Which of those has gotten in?
My point is that cheating is cheating...so if some of them get in there then there is little point in picking on 1 guy (whom I personally don’t like).
ALL cheaters of whatever stripe should be banned, so selective enforcement is just corruption of a sort.
There is some evidence of him playing with corked bats, so much for his record. In my eyes, this is far worse then the gambling.
There are defined penalties.
You think murderers should get fines?
Or traffic violations merit life in prison?
There are rules and penalties specific for the violation.
” he bet on his own team to win, not lose... i see no conflict of interest no matter what the law says”
How does betting on sports work?
Can a bettor win even if the team he bets in loses?
Good point.
Even Piazza who never got caught or implicated in PED use was not voted in just because the voters figure he must have roided.
And Piazza’s offensive stats for catchers are as dominant as Rose’s are for singles hitters.
Oh yeah, and Rose probably roilded in the 80’s.
As a minor league coach, not as a member of the HoF. Aikens broke the law of the United States and paid a price.
He did not, as Pete Rose did, break the most important rule of baseball.
Don't get me wrong. I remember Pete's rookie season when he was called 'Charlie Hustle.' I know the guy put every effort on every play. But Pete was always an arrogant jerk, and a big part of his problems now are that none of the guys who played with him ever particularly liked the guy. He was always a jerk.
But he played for years and then gets the Manager job, and stays being the jerk and cares more about his bookies than the team or his players.
Screw him. The Hall of Fame is about more than just stats!
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