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Campers: Do They Make Good Bug Out Vehicles?
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Posted on 02/10/2015 2:25:33 PM PST by Responsibility2nd

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To: Responsibility2nd

81 posted on 02/10/2015 4:33:49 PM PST by Hatteras
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To: Alberta's Child

I’m a EE. I do power engineering.

The problem with EMP is that it hits generators and transformers the hardest, and it hits them so fast that you can’t isolate them.

EMP, put as simply as I can, is when gamma radiation knocks electrons out of the upper atmostphere. It’s like taking a hammer to a brace in a coal mine - the coal dust just creates clouds of dust.

This gamma ‘hammer’ shakes so many electrons loose, and lenses it toward earth, and it all gets picked up by long conductors.

The current it generates melts the windings of transformers and generators. Solid state electronics doesn’t stand a chance. Faraday cages are the only thing that protects against EMP. Some underground parking garages will work, given that the rebar acts almost exactly like a faraday cage.

Anyway, the transformers used in the Atlantic and Pacific grids aren’t made in the US. They are made in Korea. Some in Japan.

We don’t keep spares for that sort of part. They are massive. They are hauled by trains, for the most part. Those trains are diesel electric. They won’t work either, even if you had the spares to do the job.

Unless it was made using the old tube technology, the electronics won’t work.

EMP actually has three parts to it. M1, M2, and M3. M3 is the ‘long tail’ that happens after a nuke blast is what really degrades transmission infrastructure.

Semiconductor rectifiers? They are definitely toast. They make the DC electricity go wavy (AC) so you can transmit it without much loss.

If it is made with semiconductors, its toast (M1 will do it in).

Believe it. EMP would probably kill up to 80 percent of the US population in 12 months. What would end up happening is the reversion of the ecology to its environmental limit (the max number of plant and animal species that can be supported on a given piece of land).

In cities, we artificially suspend the law of environmental limit by using JIT delivery of food that allows us to live on top of one another, like bees live in a hive.

(See Operation Fishbowl)

The Soviets found out about this before we did. Fishbowl was when we tested it and really documented it.


82 posted on 02/10/2015 4:35:52 PM PST by RinaseaofDs
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To: Sparticus
That thing was parked in a little lot along Cahuenga, in the pass between Universal City and Hollywood for years and years. Maybe in the last five years it disappeared.


83 posted on 02/10/2015 4:38:09 PM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep
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To: Yosemitest

Just saw on news this morning that the news car that have GPS and UConnec, Blue Tooth, can be hacked and controlled, stolen, tracked, etc.


84 posted on 02/10/2015 4:42:51 PM PST by Engedi
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To: Secret Agent Man

Though the author was talkin’ campers. I think a floating home is the superior choice: checkpoints...borders...battalions....murderous bands of roving pillagers.....all avoided or rendered less effective on a personal, moveable island. One can be bound for the Azores as the first SH’sTF.
And, of course, practicing with the escape pod is a lot of fun.


85 posted on 02/10/2015 4:49:15 PM PST by dasboot
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To: TexasCajun

Another “bug-out” bug ;)


86 posted on 02/10/2015 4:55:00 PM PST by Sivad (NorCal red turf ;-))
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To: Responsibility2nd
We got one heavily armed recreational vehicle here.

EM50 Urban Assault Vehicle

87 posted on 02/10/2015 4:56:22 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: dasboot

sorry didn’t realize you brought up the boat in 17. the way you dexcribed it i thought you meant one in the backyard looking unappealing.

military boats would investigate your boat for supplies and anything useful. same with boats taken over by thugs.


88 posted on 02/10/2015 5:08:14 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: RinaseaofDs

M4L


89 posted on 02/10/2015 5:14:06 PM PST by Scrambler Bob (/s /s /s /s /s, my replies are "liberally" sprinkled with them behind every word and letter.!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

90 posted on 02/10/2015 5:15:05 PM PST by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Unimog.


91 posted on 02/10/2015 5:20:50 PM PST by smoky415 (Follow the money)
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To: TexasCajun

There ya go. That’s the one. :-)


92 posted on 02/10/2015 5:21:41 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: smoky415

Unimog 404 1968 model and it is EMP proof.


93 posted on 02/10/2015 5:27:59 PM PST by smoky415 (Follow the money)
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To: RinaseaofDs
Faraday cage = tin foil


94 posted on 02/10/2015 5:30:58 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Alberta's Child

I listened to the Gun Guy Radio show yesterday and they talked about this company. They interviewed one of the guys who works there, and they’re planning to build their vehicles on platforms all the way up to the Ford F-750.


95 posted on 02/10/2015 5:37:13 PM PST by RandallFlagg (Vote fraud solution: Stake, Rope, Sugar and Bullet Ants.)
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To: smoky415

Better yet , ebay has a 1998 M1079 fo 30k that has 481 original miles.


96 posted on 02/10/2015 5:37:33 PM PST by smoky415 (Follow the money)
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To: Responsibility2nd

97 posted on 02/10/2015 5:38:33 PM PST by cynwoody
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To: dasboot

sssshhhhhh! let everyone run into the hills and look for deer.


98 posted on 02/10/2015 5:50:46 PM PST by willyd (I for one welcome our NSA overlords)
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To: dasboot
Our 40 ft Yorktown just came out of the yard and is ready to go. 😍
99 posted on 02/10/2015 5:58:25 PM PST by sheana
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To: RinaseaofDs

A former coworker of mine bought that Toyota thing that looks like a bug-out vehicle...and for that purpose.

I informed him that being a 2012 (or so) model year it won’t hold up to well against an EMP. He said “whoops”.


100 posted on 02/10/2015 6:15:15 PM PST by BobL (REPUBLICANS - Fight for the WHITE VOTE...and you will win.)
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