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2014: Among the 3 percent Coldest Years in 10,000 years?
wattsupwiththat.com ^ | January 21, 2015 | Guest Opinion: Dr. Tim Ball

Posted on 01/24/2015 9:20:14 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

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1 posted on 01/24/2015 9:20:14 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

As for 2014, we had a pretty mild summer at my house here in northern Arizona. It got a little warm in Phoenix last summer though. All weather is local.


2 posted on 01/24/2015 9:22:49 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (When the hell do I get MY white privilege? I'm tired of busting my @$$ for a living.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Wrong premise. Let us start with 10,000 years. Prove it.


3 posted on 01/24/2015 9:24:32 PM PST by Fungi (There is apparent age and absolute age. Think about it.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks; SunkenCiv; BenLurkin; Marine_Uncle; TigersEye; justa-hairyape

ping


4 posted on 01/24/2015 9:27:30 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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5 posted on 01/24/2015 9:30:33 PM PST by TigersEye (ISIS is the tip of the spear. The spear is Islam.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks

Thanks for posting this. I live is rural Canada, and I can assure you that 2014 was a throwback to the early 1960s, when we had 10 foot walls of snow on both sides of the roads, from snow plows winging it back.

It was indeed cold. And a lot colder than usual. All one has to do is compare the 2012 polar ice fields sat photo composites with 2014, and the difference is apparent.

Global warming is a myth.The cycles are ordinary , the usual cycles of the earth as influenced by the Sun.


6 posted on 01/24/2015 9:32:49 PM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

“The planet has a FEE-ver,” Almost president Gore.


7 posted on 01/24/2015 9:34:41 PM PST by ConservativeStatement ("World Peace 1.20.09.")
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

That is the most butchered URL I’ve ever seen!! How hard is it to copy/paste a URL?


8 posted on 01/24/2015 9:36:11 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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http://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/01/21/2014-among-the-3-percent-coldest-years-in-10000-years/

It's easier than snarking.

9 posted on 01/24/2015 9:45:43 PM PST by TigersEye (ISIS is the tip of the spear. The spear is Islam.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Bkmrk


10 posted on 01/24/2015 9:50:23 PM PST by morphing libertarian (defund Obama care and amnesty. Impeach for Benghazi and IRS and fast and furious.)
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Jim Carrey on Canada.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ic3xNfEP_o


11 posted on 01/24/2015 10:07:00 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Candor7

Cooked up by the crooked UN as a method of extracting funds to keep its marxist agenda funded.


12 posted on 01/24/2015 10:08:03 PM PST by Fred Nerks (Fair Dinkum!)
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To: ConservativeStatement
'“The planet has a FEE-ver,” Almost president Gore.'


13 posted on 01/24/2015 10:09:36 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

You think that I set up the URL?


14 posted on 01/24/2015 10:18:21 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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Mr. Hydrazine, one of my favorites on FR, but this one does not make sense. Dare I say a little mono methyl hydrazine your Eminence?
15 posted on 01/24/2015 10:19:32 PM PST by Fungi (There is apparent age and absolute age. Think about it.)
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icouldnthelpit says:

January 21, 2015 at 8:07 am

Complains that “The instrumental data is spatially and temporally inadequate” and then relies on Greenland Ice Core temps to prove The whole Earth has been a lot warmer in the past 10,000 years. Got it.

16 posted on 01/24/2015 10:27:21 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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Oh, no! Not mono methyl!

Only UDMH!


17 posted on 01/24/2015 10:27:34 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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Bryan A says:

January 21, 2015 at 10:11 am

Sounds like Climatologists and MSM should get a GRIP on past temps before declaring current high temps as historic

18 posted on 01/24/2015 10:33:26 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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Figure 6 is amazing. Right when the number of reported stations dropped dramatically, the temperature rose dramatically. Obvious evidence of AGW, at least in the way records were kept. Will never ever again for the rest of my life trust a leftist or a government employee. If the ice age returns, these disingenuous fools could end up killing millions for a cheap political advantage. But hey, is that not exactly what they did from 1900 to 1950 ?


19 posted on 01/24/2015 10:39:57 PM PST by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way. Was)
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whiten says:

January 21, 2015 at 10:13 am

rooter
“It is just fantastic. This could be a classic. Surely beats the interpolation in gistemp.”
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Yes rooter it is fantastic…..especially while it shows that people like your self can not distinguish between climate and weather, or yearly cycles.
Estimating and evaluating the particular 2014 in the format of 10,000 years is a climatic evaluation.
I know this make no heads or tails for you thus far….be patient.

A climatic evaluation or estimation is not calculated only on temp variations,….. like the measured amount of warming or cooling during the year…..but actually through the CS metric…. the amount of temp variation in accordance to CO2 emissions.
Whatever value of CS you fancy, according to the reality this is the higher CO2 emission-concentration year for the last 10,000 years with an amount of warming that makes this year with the less ever “amplifying” of warming, meaning that the 2014 regardless of so much CO2 in atmosphere shows no “amplifying” and therefor showing that there is no warming whatsoever but actually the climatic signal is one of cooling, to the extent of it been the higher COOLING CLIMATIC signal for this year than any other year for the last 10,000 years.

Sorry but you know we have this thing the CS you know, and it has a meaning and a use for, is not a figment of imagination…….it is the main climatic metric, for better or worse.

So in the climatic estimation, like when you say the warmer or colder year ever (evah), or for any time with a length beyond a 100 years, this year belongs to the 3% of the coldest years for the last 10,000…..actually with a very very high possibility of it been the coldest ever (evah) for the last 10,000 years.

In a weather or yearly or even a decade time span estimation… it could be whatever you or any one else fancies to be….and I would not really care, as I my self more interested in the climate and climate change than weather……..But when claiming an estimation in the bases of the term “since the records began” than you are in a climatic estimation by default, so to speak.

So no matter how many record warming years you have according to the simple weather or yearly cycles estimations, or how many such record years you may “produce”, it does not really mean anything in climate terms,…………… that is why these crazy records make not even a dent to the plateau or the hiatus…or put another way….these record years can not give you back that large amount of the missing heat, no matter what, because that is all to do with climate and not weather…….

hope this is not very complicated in principle..

cheers.

20 posted on 01/24/2015 10:41:39 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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