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The NFL found 11 of the Patriots' 12 footballs were under-inflated by 2 pounds of air (PSI)
bostonherald.com ^ | Jan 21, 2015 | Jeff Howe

Posted on 01/21/2015 4:04:41 AM PST by Boston Blackie

The NFL is investigating whether the Patriots deflated footballs that were used in their AFC championship game victory over the Colts.

(Excerpt) Read more at bostonherald.com ...


TOPICS: Sports
KEYWORDS: deflatedballs; deflategate; deflatriots; newengland; nfl; patriots; searchfootballs
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To: Girlene

it wasnt noticed...because it was trivial.


41 posted on 01/21/2015 5:06:53 AM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: CAluvdubya; sten

Yeah, but it was in the 50’s in Foxboro on Sunday.


42 posted on 01/21/2015 5:07:38 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Boston Blackie

the footballs were not deflated..... they were under inflated.

the problem will be traced to the gage that gave incorrect readings that were under pressure. The gage was not calibrated or was beyond the calibration date. Anyway, the underinflation of all points to an improperly calibrated gage

“The ball must be inflated between 12.5 to 13.5 pounds per square inch (psi) “ That is a tolerance of +/- 4 % psi from the midrange of 13 psi

Boston blackie is a dummy...... his “two pounds of air “ statement shows clearly the man is clueless.


43 posted on 01/21/2015 5:11:34 AM PST by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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To: Fresh Wind

That is not what I said - nor did I even imply it.


44 posted on 01/21/2015 5:13:49 AM PST by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
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To: Fresh Wind

if the Patriots wanted to be butts, and supply the ref balls at check-time with 5 lbs of pressure in them, that wouldn’t be cheating. it’d be obnoxious, but not cheating.

The only cheating would be if after the balls were returned to the ball boy, just prior to the game start, that the balls were then deflated, by the team. Unless that can be proven, this is on the Refs...and still not a big deal.


45 posted on 01/21/2015 5:14:48 AM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Lyin, cheating scum. They cannot win without cheating in some fashion.


46 posted on 01/21/2015 5:15:04 AM PST by petercooper ("How To Destroy The Country In 6 Short Years" by Barack Obama & the Democrats)
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To: 9YearLurker
I just wondered if there were any difference in pressure if the footballs were inflated in one place then, checked 6 hours later someplace else. (or however long it had been between being checked and inflation).

I have a tire/rim problem on my car which creates a very slow leak. I know when I inflate that tire in my cold garage then drive it outside where the sun is shining, the air pressure is different.

47 posted on 01/21/2015 5:17:02 AM PST by CAluvdubya (<------- has now left CA for NV, where God and guns have not been outlawed! Molon Labe)
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To: bert

Boston Blackie posted the article - he did not write it.


48 posted on 01/21/2015 5:17:08 AM PST by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
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To: bert

Boston Blackie may be a dummy but is not the author of the article. 2 pounds (psi) means 2 pounds per square inch.


49 posted on 01/21/2015 5:18:43 AM PST by Boston Blackie
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To: WayneS; Girlene

Thanks for the numbers.

What if the bone-dry footballs were at ambient temp in a hot room when they were pumped up to 12.5 psi, and they were then taken out to play in wet 40* weather? I wonder how much the psi would go down when the “hot” 80* air inside cooled down to 40*, especially when going from dry to wet, resulting in more pliable leather?

The wet leather would make the balls feel softer. Wet leather also stretches, allowing the volume of the envelope for air within to be larger, hence the psi drops even lower.

Just some ideas.


50 posted on 01/21/2015 5:19:02 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: petercooper

You think the balls are why the Patrtiots won? Really?

Under-inflated balls are why the score was 45-7? Seriously?


51 posted on 01/21/2015 5:23:30 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Boston Blackie

oops.... Jeff is the igmo

pounds of air is weight

pounds per square inch is pressure

Jeff’s usage is incorrect because he is ignorant on the subject


52 posted on 01/21/2015 5:24:00 AM PST by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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To: Boston Blackie
This will lead to the NFL changing its policy of who has control of the footballs used in the game.

Currently, the NFL requires the referees directly have ownership of the footballs used in kicking field goals, punts and kickoffs; it may now extend that to footballs used in actual game play. In short, no more "seasoning" of the football by individual teams before the game--it will now be done by the designated NFL officials.

53 posted on 01/21/2015 5:24:10 AM PST by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: Boston Blackie
The scum of a team needs to be fined and the coach barred from the NFL .
The game should be forfeited.
Kraft , the Obamabot lefty owner knew all about this sleazy low rent move .

The saints coach was barred fir a year so why is the scum of a coach who has a history of cheatin still in the NFL.

If Brady did not need the huge advantage why are all the game bowl deflated to act like Nerf balls.

54 posted on 01/21/2015 5:24:14 AM PST by ncalburt ( Amnesty-media out in full force)
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To: sten

“keep in mind, if you inflated the balls to 13 psi in a very warm room (90F ?)... then brought them outside to 20F.. they would deflate a bit.”

Lol. The only way that could happen in the middle of winter, is if cheating Belichick or one of his cheating staff deliberately heated the room to 90F so that they would deflate outdoors.


55 posted on 01/21/2015 5:24:26 AM PST by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: 9YearLurker

I corrected my math. They were 19% under on the average. I would expect professionals to notice the difference, easily. The Colts player that intercepted the ball in fact did.

I’m wondering where the gauge(s) came from when they did the original spec check. When the Colts brought it to the ref’s attention, the ref’s used a different guage and found 11 of the 12 balls provided by the Patriots were illegal.


56 posted on 01/21/2015 5:25:27 AM PST by Girlene
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To: 1rudeboy
The second question is: who cares?

Well, I know my life has certainly been put in disarray by this 'shocking blockbuster' news.

ohgeewhizgoshdarn.

57 posted on 01/21/2015 5:25:40 AM PST by uglybiker (nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-BATMAN!)
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To: CAluvdubya
Yes, there can be a temperature-based difference.

There can also be a difference between the readings obtained from two different gages (gage tolerance).

These anomalies are one reason the NFL provides a range of acceptable pressures for the footballs.

I this case, based on the % disparity of the claimed readings, and assuming NFL teams do not typically use cheap plastic junk pressure gages, the under-inflation claimed would almost have to be either intentional, or the result of a defective pressure gage being used to take initial measurements.

58 posted on 01/21/2015 5:27:07 AM PST by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
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To: Travis McGee

Not saying they’re not a good team, but what is this, the 3rd time they’ve been caught cheating? He should have been kicked out after the 1st.


59 posted on 01/21/2015 5:27:36 AM PST by petercooper ("How To Destroy The Country In 6 Short Years" by Barack Obama & the Democrats)
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To: 1rudeboy

If they were that way through the whole game I would say it didn’t matter. Softer ball, easier to hold.


60 posted on 01/21/2015 5:27:51 AM PST by huldah1776
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