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Monday, January 19th: Patterns Of Evidence: The Exodus (one day only)
Patterns of Evidence ^ | January 19, 2015 | Peter Windahl and Diane Walker

Posted on 01/15/2015 2:01:39 PM PST by SunkenCiv

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To: SunkenCiv
It was good enough, I guess... I found it a bit anticlimactic, even though I went in expecting to be underwhelmed. Documentaries tend toward simplistic presentation, constrained by time and scripting. I think the argument (which I am basically *for*, btw) would be better served with more intricacy... Something the written word would do better.

My main complaint would be found in the treatment of Ipuwer's Lament - Having read it previously, I felt it was glossed and gussied up to provide an evidence that IMHO is barely there (as it has before)... Were it not for the 'river turning to blood' reference, I doubt anyone would readily tie this work to the Exodus... Not that it couldn't be exactly that, but it is a rather generic lament which could fit many different events. Can I 'read in' the plagues and exodus followed by the invasion of the Hyksos? I guess so... But mostly because that is what I want it to say... And in this, I found the dissenting view was made to look strident and self-serving, when really it was the more objective view. JMO.

I also wish I had not stayed for the commentary after the show - It felt rather plastic and strained... pimping amazement that wasn't really there. This is hardly a new argument, and the panel kinda made much ado about nothing.

That all being said, I am glad to see the expanded archaeological results coming out of Goshen. And I am made curious about the pyramid tomb - I will investigate that, which will be a pleasant aside... A pretty good show as documentaries go. Would I spend the twenty bucks again? No.

21 posted on 01/20/2015 9:35:46 AM PST by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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The pyramid tomb was definitely interesting.

I’d like to know how they calculate the length of the “dark years” in Egyptian history, but they didn’t discuss that. Also, what have they seen in the study of other cultures in that area that don’t seem to line up with the Egyptian timeline?


22 posted on 01/20/2015 9:55:58 AM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: SunkenCiv

I watched the program at a local theatre. Just one thought re: Finkelstein. He belongs to a rather sizeable group of archaeologists who are, frankly, sick and tired that the discipline of archaeology in the Levant has been in service to Biblical fundamentalists. He wants his discipline to be respected by all other scientists. His attitude was not so much arrogance as frustration that he was speaking to yet another person who wants syro-palestinian archaeology to be “biblical” archaeology. In my opinion the writer/ producer of the program made a mistake by including Finkelstein in the first place.


23 posted on 01/20/2015 10:11:47 AM PST by Remole
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My main complaint was the long lead-in, as I’ve been familiar with everything in this controv since, well, for 40 years now (that’s the surprise for today). It took forever to get started, and I got impatient. I didn’t expect the level of detail found in Velikovsky, or even in Rohl (like Peter James et al, authors of “Centuries of Darkness”, David Rohl came out of the failed Glasgow Chronology, which was dreamed up as a replacement for V’s reconstruction, in part because he was a Jew), and the intended audience would have gotten more out of that timeline virtual wall thing.


24 posted on 01/20/2015 12:51:36 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Fred Nerks

Thanks for the link. Interesting background.


25 posted on 01/21/2015 4:38:33 PM PST by colorado tanker
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you’re welcome:

http://www.velikovsky.info/Main_Page


26 posted on 01/21/2015 4:48:15 PM PST by Fred Nerks (Fair Dinkum!)
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27 posted on 09/19/2015 9:35:51 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW)
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