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Many Landlords Won't Take Section 8
WROC-TV ^ | December 8, 2014 | Rachel Barnhart

Posted on 01/10/2015 1:06:08 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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Rochester, NY (WROC) - LaTanya Daughtry needs a new place to live.

The single mother of two boys is on disability and gets a Section 8 housing voucher. But many online classifieds ads say "No Section 8."

"It just makes me feel people look at me differently because I'm on Section 8," Daughtry said. "A lot of ads say no Section 8 right off the bat."

Section 8 is a federal housing program run through the Rochester Housing Authority. Recipients pay a portion of the rent and Section 8 pays the rest.

Section 8 vouchers are in short supply. In the Rochester region, 9,125 families get the housing vouchers. There are about 10,000 families who have been on the waiting list for five years. A Harvard University study found that 30 percent of Rochester area renters are "severely burdened," meaning they pay more than half their income on rent.

"I really can't afford housing on my own with a disability, so Section 8 helps out tremendously," said Daughtry.

The goal of Section 8 was to give poor people the freedom to move where they want. But it hasn't worked out that way. Sixty-one percent of the region's Section 8 recipients live in high-poverty areas.

"It's not illegal in Rochester and most of the state to deny someone because the landlord doesn't wish to contract and accept the Section 8 voucher," said Lou Prieto, an attorney with Legal Assistance of Western New York.

Rochester's higher-end Park Ave. neighborhood has the lowest concentration of Section 8 housing vouchers in the city, with only a few dozen recipients living in housing units there.

"It has nothing to do with we don't like poor people. It just means (Park Ave.) housing is more expensive," said Gini Denninger, a real estate agent.

Section 8 bases how much it will pay landlords on comparable rents in the area. The Park Ave. area commands $912 for a two-bedroom, higher than the $830 standard Section 8 rate. If a tenant wants to live in a pricier apartment, Section 8 will evaluate the comparable rents. As long as tenants don't pay more than 40 percent of ther income in rent, Section 8 will sign off on the arrangement.

Many landlords complain about the red tape involved with Section 8. There are pre-move-in inspections that can two weeks to schedule, leaving a property vacant. Section 8 also requires landlords use a contract it provides.

Some landlords think Section 8 tenants, who need public assistance to pay for housing, are more of a risk.

"This is a business. And I have an obligation to the City of Rochester and the neighborhood I own property in to put the best person in that neighborhood," said Mary D'Alessandro, who owns 11 properties and heads the New York State Property Owners Coalition.

The new interim director of the Rochester Housing Authority wants landlords to be required to accept Section 8. At a recent board meeting, Adam McFadden proposed a fair housing law. That would forbid landlords from discriminating against Section 8 tenants, in the same way landlords are not allowed to discriminate against people with disabilities or people with children.

McFadden would not appear on camera for this story, citing the controversy over his appointment and a need to stay out of the spotlight.

A fair housing law would face opposition.

"If I am discriminating for Section 8 - on income discrimination - then these people should be able to go get a mortgage. Why do I have to rent to them, but a bank doesn't have to give them a mortgage?" said D'Alessandro.

"If Section 8 were that easy for housing providers, they would all be doing it," said Denninger.

Prieto said in order for a fair housing law to work, it would have to be countywide.

"Even if Rochester were to pass such an ordinance, the tenants would still encounter problems, I think in the suburbs," said Prieto.

Fair housing laws exist in Buffalo and New York City. There is no fair housing law proposal in front of Rochester City Council or the Monroe County Legislature. But McFadden has indicated he will work with lawmakers to bring one forward.

Meanwhile, Daughtry found a place to live in the 19th Ward. Her new Landlord, Marty Rennert, likes the Section 8 program. He finds the required leases and rules help - not hurt - his business.

"As a landlord it's a risk-mitigator in every sense," said Rennert. "It puts a positive pressure on both the tenant and the landlord and ensures a good relationship."

Rennert suspects many landlords confuse Section 8 with rental assistance provided by social services. Rennert said there are fewer protections in social service rental assistance. However, Rennert is wary of a fair housing law. He said some landlords would put in place requirements such as making tenants pay first and last month's rents plus a security deposit. In other words, the landlords would make sure Section 8 recipients would not be able to rent their properties.

Daughtry likes the idea of a fair housing law.

"It would give people like me a chance and an opportunity to do better to go better places, and to establish a better environment for my children," she said.


TOPICS: Local News; Society
KEYWORDS: disability; housing; hud; newyork; rochester; rochesterhousing; section8; welfare
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To: SampleMan
Come what may you ALWAYS pay rent FIRST or Mortgage !..no matter what. Even before you eat.
161 posted on 01/16/2015 6:10:15 AM PST by caww
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To: caww

Its a nice sentiment, but when a person has to have their car to get to work, they will repair the car before paying me rent.

That is why I require a person to be making substantially more money than the amount of the rent.


162 posted on 01/16/2015 6:28:44 AM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: SampleMan

You take a cab or get a ride on a bus or call a friend....tough break but you still pay rent first.


163 posted on 01/16/2015 6:31:17 AM PST by caww
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To: caww

Again, I appreciate your ethics, I’m just sharing the reality of who I will be renting to.


164 posted on 01/16/2015 6:54:01 AM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: SampleMan
I think what has been strange for me was a time I inquired about an advertised apartment. The landlord charged more for a single person than a married couple. Weird? You would think it would be more for a married couple with two incomes.

Actually when I inquire I pay attention to how the landlord speaks with me and answers questions I have. It's a two way street for both. I've been fortunate to have very good landlords, but there have been some apartments I wouldn't even consider looking at because of how the landlord spoke with me.

The landlord I now have is fabulous....even provided a gas grill when I shared I would like to get one for my deck but needed to see if he'd ok it. A week later he and his son brought one to my deck...no charge! It was perfect!

I do understand that if landlords have a good tenant, they generally want to retain them and will do "perks" along the way to insure that if possible. At least where I live it seems to be the way it goes.

165 posted on 01/16/2015 1:39:47 PM PST by caww
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