Posted on 01/04/2015 7:23:58 PM PST by Morgana
“I do know that it’s true that if you wanted to reduce crime, you could – if that were your sole purpose, you could abort every Black baby in this country, and your crime rate would go down. That would be an impossible, ridiculous, and morally reprehensible thing to do, but your crime rate would go down.”
William Bennett, CNN
Cathcart, C. D. “CNN, the real “WB” network” Afro – American Red Star 2006
Not only is this comment extremely racist, making false assumptions about the African-American community, it illustrates a type of proabortion thinking that focuses on eliminating problems by eliminating human beings.
I already posted to the effect that he was Reagan’s second-term secretary of education, H.W. Bush’s drug czar, and is currently hosting “Morning In America”. Big supporter of the War On Drugs, of course.
He claimed liberal beliefs to be true, in essence.
I don’t understand what your position is.
This was not a pro-choice comment and Bennett did not advocate this, nor is he pro-choice.
This article is taking the comment out of context and deliberately distorting it.
To what purpose I do not know.
By saying that, are you saying that the liberals’ “math” is correct, first of all? Because by saying that, I am being challenged to refute liberal “math” after all.
He claimed it to be true, and that’s the bad thing. I did not say he advocated it, but by claiming a liberal lie to be true is a backdoor affirmation if not advocation, thus making his statement against it to be double-talk. There really is no context that can justify the statement.
You aren’t getting it. Of course the problem is fatherlessness.
But that problem IS the reason why kids turn out to be criminals. Particularly in the creation of urban black ferals who go on to have insidious careers in crime. Hurting mainly their own people.
Because there is no end in sight to the epidemic of fatherlessness in the black urban community, because it’s been done on purpose by liberals to keep blacks captive and on the liberal plantation,
the less urban ferals that exist, the less urban crime. It’s that simple. the problem will not be fixed because they are happy to be fatherless.
This is like arguing that incarceration won’t reduce crime. Or execution doesn’t reduce crime. Both do by removing the individual out of society, eliminating any crimes that person can do in the future. Same thing with abortion in the black urban community.
I’d love for them to have intact families with God-fearing Christian black men leading them. It’s just not happening, and for the foreseeable future it will not be happening. Whites are not welcome in solving their problems. And they are in total denial about the real problems of their community and refuse to listen to anyone else. They only want to blame others. And ignore the massive black on black crime decimating themselves.
But as the urban black community stands now, by and large, abortion certainly does keep crime rates lower than they otherwise would be. I agree that good fathers in the home could repair this, but it’s just not happening. And only they can make it happen and they have no interest in doing it. They have no interest in getting their sh1t together, collectively as a group. And only they can do it.
No. Abortion solves nothing and creates more problems. You’re not only agreeing with liberals, national socialists and environmentalists, but with the Koran.
You really don’t believe that there is wrath coming upon this nation because of abortion?
Equating incarceration and the death penalty with abortion is an utterly false argument, BTW. There is no wrath from God for punishing evildoers, especially since that is Biblically commanded.
You do not know how to read. Seriously.
Go back and read my first post.
Where - anywhere - do I say this is the right thing? Where do I say I advocate abortion?
Nowhere. Because I don’t. I have said regardless of whether you and I believe it reduces crime or not, it doesn’t matter. Abortion is murder and therefore it’s wrong.
If the Führer wants it, two and two make five!
— Hermann Goering
And per the prison/execution statement,
the point there was that when a person is removed from society they can’t commit crimes in it anymore. Abortion removes a person from society. I didn’t say they had committed any crimes, the point was being removed from society they’d have no ability to commit crimes. It’s an analogy and no analogy is perfect. And you know that too.
What is the liberal lie?
Believing this lie is de-facto advocation for abortion. Abandon it.
But as the urban black community stands now, by and large, abortion certainly does keep crime rates lower than they otherwise would be. …
The liberal lie is where Bennett says that aborting every black fetus would reduce crime. That is in fact what the liberals want.
Liberals don’t even recognize crime as crime.
More advocation for abortion, whether you realize it or not. The point is to remove the bad people from society, not the innocent.
Even Romans 9:11 affirms the innocence of babies in the womb, although it specifically refers to Jacob and Esau; the innocence of that state still covers all that are in the womb.
Only when nominal conservatives make their statements for them, it seems.
Sorry; meant to say that the exception occurs when such nominal concerns echo their sentiments; then it becomes crime.
Those who are going to be for abortion are going to be for abortion regardless if they believe it reduces crime or not.
Personally it’s never been used as a major reason for it.
But if you want to keep beating up on the guy who believes abortion is evil (murder) and you don’t do evil in order to get some kind of “good” from it, keep going. We’re on the same side and you just keep on hammering on me.
My belief on abortion doesn’t hinge on whether it reduces crime or not, so stop hammering about it. So I disagree with you on a tangential point. We agree on fatherlessness and the evil of abortion. Learn to be glad there’s someone on the same side of the big point.
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