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Amnesties Undermine Immigration Laws
Portland Tribune ^ | January 1, 2015 | Elizabeth Van Staaveren

Posted on 01/02/2015 11:58:48 AM PST by OddLane

Editor’s note: This guest column is in response to Lewis & Clark history professor Elliott Young’s Dec. 11 My View column, “President Obama got it half right on immigration.”

“Our immigration system is broken” ... we hear this line repeatedly, and it’s usually cited as a reason for granting amnesty to undocumented immigrants.

Rarely do we hear discussion of what broke our immigration system, but that’s a very important point to consider before attempting to “fix” the system.

Lax to no enforcement of current immigration laws is why we now have 11 million or more undocumented immigrants in the country, with politicians and open-borders advocates crying that our immigration system is broken and urging amnesties as a remedy. If the immigration laws had been adequately enforced over recent decades, we wouldn’t have a problem of illegal immigration or any arguments about amnesties.

Congress was persuaded in 1986 to grant a general amnesty. Proponents claimed it would be a one-time-only measure and that, henceforth, border security would prevent further undocumented immigration. However, enforcement promises were forgotten, and six more major amnesties followed, the last one in 2000. At least these were amnesties passed by Congress in its constitutional role as lawmakers.

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TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; elliottyoung; immigration
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1 posted on 01/02/2015 11:58:48 AM PST by OddLane
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To: OddLane
Amnesty advocates like to point out that 11 million undocumented immigrants can’t be deported en masse, but no one is calling for that.

I am.

2 posted on 01/02/2015 12:02:57 PM PST by LucianOfSamasota (Tanstaafl - its not just for breakfast anymore...)
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To: OddLane

I really do think learned helplessness and the complete fragmentation of the country are the things that allow this sort of national disgrace to prevail, time after time.


3 posted on 01/02/2015 12:06:52 PM PST by BlackAdderess
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To: OddLane

No enforcement of current immigration laws is why we now have 11 million.
Another Obama gift.


4 posted on 01/02/2015 12:15:59 PM PST by Vaduz
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To: LucianOfSamasota

me too!...and with the right laws in place 2/3rds of em will self deport....it ain’t rocket science!


5 posted on 01/02/2015 12:21:53 PM PST by M-cubed
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To: Vaduz

“No enforcement of current immigration laws is why we now have 11 million. Another Obama gift.”

You’re right but it’s worse than that. The treason lobby has been touting that 11 million number for 20 years or more. The actual number of foreign nationals living here as illegal aliens is at least 30 million.

A Wall Street investment firm commissioned its own study maybe five years ago to get a non-politicized count and it was just shy of 30 million. You can bet your last dollar that number has only increased.

And it’s not just an Obama gift, the Amnesty pushers are heavily entrenched in the GOP as well. The grassroots had to melt the phone lines to just to keep Dubya from ramming through amnesty despite its immense unpopularity. And his fool of a brother Jeb is even worse.


6 posted on 01/02/2015 12:28:10 PM PST by Pelham (Treason, not just for Democrats anymore)
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To: Pelham

Amnesty pushers = Businesses


7 posted on 01/02/2015 12:42:54 PM PST by Vaduz
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To: OddLane
Proponents claimed it would be a one-time-only measure and that, henceforth, border security would prevent further undocumented immigration

Gee! She remembers that!

It's quaint to see anti-illegal immigration articles from the mostly un-invaded states (there's fewer and fewer of them). They bring up points long forgotten in the Invaded States of America like California.

But that is exactly what the Beached Whale (Ted Kennedy) said: henceforth, our borders will be controlled and they would not bring up a bill like this again.

I listened to it live that day. Thought it made sense at the time.

But it was an abject lie.

8 posted on 01/02/2015 12:55:48 PM PST by Regulator (Documents for the UnDocumented....yet another Leftist "solution")
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To: Vaduz
Corporations, agri-businesses, the political class, the hospitality industry, VOLAGs, Catholic Charities, organized labor, the tech industry looking to cut labor costs, i.e. Zuckerface & Co., among others.

Essentially, the elite stratum which is insulated from the worst consequences of open borders policies.

9 posted on 01/02/2015 1:06:28 PM PST by OddLane
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To: OddLane

I’ve noticed more and more retailers have Spanish-only advertising and signage. My guess is these businesses also are in favor of letting as many young shoppers into this country as possible.


10 posted on 01/02/2015 1:17:06 PM PST by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: Pelham; Vaduz
If there are 30 million of them, and they all turned themselves in, and we loaded them up 60 per railroad cattle car and sent them to Mexico, it would take only 500,000 cattle car loads.

Somebody better get busy building cattle cars.

11 posted on 01/02/2015 1:19:54 PM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: Menehune56
It's all about the money.

Always.

12 posted on 01/02/2015 1:32:39 PM PST by OddLane
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To: Ben Ficklin
It's a fiscally illiterate argument, especially when it's posited by leftists who think programs like Medicare and Social Security are financially sustainable.

Plus, FAIR has already demonstrated that it's a complete fallacy.

13 posted on 01/02/2015 1:35:14 PM PST by OddLane
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To: Ben Ficklin

“If there are 30 million of them, and they all turned themselves in, and we loaded them up 60 per railroad cattle car and sent them to Mexico, it would take only 500,000 cattle car loads. “

‘Cattle cars’. Nice allusion to Nazi Germany, none of the amnesty lobby has ever used that one before /s

When President Eisenhower assigned General Swing to implement ‘Operation Wetback’ (that name alone makes the treason lobby in today’s GOP wet their pants) he didn’t use cattle cars and he didn’t even have to round up all of the illegal foreign nationals squatting here. The illegals began leaving all on their own, and Swing was able to focus on the diehards.

It’s funny how simply demonstrating that the law will be enforced has a salutary effect on widespread anarchy.

If Dubya had spent as much effort in deporting illegals as he did in trying to reward them with amnesty then Obama and his GOPe collaborators wouldn’t be threatening the end of the American nation as we know it with their mass amnesty.

Because just as the Reagan amnesty turned out to be triple the number advertised this Obama/GOPe amnesty will do the same. And the ‘30 million’ who get amnesty will instead be 90 million once the chain migration gets added. Plus the message will be heard loud and clear all over the third world that all you have to do is get to America any way that you can and you get to live here permanently. They already think that. That’s why we have the ever increasing load of illegal foreign nationals.


14 posted on 01/02/2015 1:45:02 PM PST by Pelham (Treason, not just for Democrats anymore)
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To: LucianOfSamasota
I am.

As am I. Once the illegals realized that the jig was up, and other illegals were actually getting deported, many of them would self-deport. Besides, if Mexico managed to transfer however many millions of people from there to here, why can't we transfer them back? We put a man on the moon; we can't get rid of illegals? People who say "we can't" really mean, "I don't want to!"

15 posted on 01/02/2015 1:47:20 PM PST by Nea Wood
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To: LucianOfSamasota

Me too.


16 posted on 01/02/2015 1:48:05 PM PST by Pelham (Treason, not just for Democrats anymore)
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To: LucianOfSamasota

So am I. I told that to WEB’s uncle and the look on his face was one of shear horror.


17 posted on 01/02/2015 1:48:14 PM PST by raybbr (Obamacare needs a death panel.)
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To: Nea Wood

Of course illegal aliens can be deported. Eisenhower did it, so have other nations with less resources than the U.S. There are many ways to get rid of these undesirables.


18 posted on 01/02/2015 1:58:57 PM PST by Dante3
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To: OddLane

We have immigration laws? Since when?


19 posted on 01/02/2015 2:00:57 PM PST by jmacusa (Liberalism defined: When mom and dad go away and the kids are in charge.)
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To: OddLane

Yup.


20 posted on 01/02/2015 2:02:10 PM PST by jmacusa (Liberalism defined: When mom and dad go away and the kids are in charge.)
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