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To: entropy12
Has the 50 year Cuba embargo succeeded?
Castro crowd gone?
Cubans more free than 50 years ago?
Are there less human rights violations now compared to 50 years ago?
Cubans richer than 50 years ago?
Is the Cuba embargo beneficial to US economy?
How long does an embargo has to be in effect to be called a success? How is not this a failed policy after 50 years of trying? Does this policy fit definition of insanity?

Can some Cuba experts explain please?


By all means, please let me explain.

Back around October in the early 1960’s Cuba conspired with the USSR to become a base for Russian offensive Nuclear missiles. This would have left the America open to nuclear attack from bases 90 miles from it's shores.

Cuba has had a long history of meddling in the internal affairs of other nations. It has not only done that but it has openly participated in insurrections, trained guerrillas and provided funds to wage civil wars in many countries.

From the the 1960’s until the fall of the USSR 1990’s the Cuba Military sent Cuban soldiers on Soviet sponsored missions of revolutionary communist conquest all over the world.

These Cuban mercenaries fueled wars, assented leaders, organized and executed coups and devastated much of South, Central and North Africa, South and Central America, the Philippines, Vietnam, Afghanistan, Algeria, and other countries.

Fidel Castro was a pioneer of State Sponsored Terror. Castro's Cuba was a major player in the rise of State Sponsored Terror.

Castro's Cuba was, and still is, a hot bed for international terror and safe haven for terrorists. The Baader-Meinhof Gang, The Red Army Factions, The PLO , The Japanese Red Army, The Peruvian Shining Path Guerrillas, ect were supported, trained, based by Cuba
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From an article published in The Atlantic titled. “How the Soviet Union Transformed Terrorism”

http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2011/12/how-the-soviet-union-transformed-terrorism/250433/

Here is a brief excerpt

“Russia is the birthplace of modern terrorism. The Russian nihilists of the 19th century combined political powerlessness with a propensity for gruesome violence, but their attacks were aimed at the Tsarist state and ruling classes. Later, the Soviet Union and its allies actively supported terrorism as a means to politically inconvenience and undermine its opponents. The East German Stasi and the KGB provided funds, equipment, and “networking” opportunities to the myriad of leftist German terrorist cells in the 1960s, 70s and 80s. The Red Army Faction and the 2nd June Movement in Germany, as well as the Red Brigades in Italy, shared Marxist philosophies, a hatred of America, solidarity with the Palestinians, and opposition to the generation, some of its members still in power, that had supported the Nazis and fascists. They were good foundations for a Cold War fifth column. It was not just Europe, either: Soviet equipment, funding, training and guidance flowed across the globe, either directly from the KGB or through the agencies of key allies, like the Rumanian Securitate, the Cuban General Intelligence Directorate.”

Cuban has played and continues to play a big role in Islamic Terror.

Many of the Communist terror groups. Cuban and Cuban organized, trained and led soldiers and terrorists tortured, murdered and intimidated civilians all over the world and continue to do so to this day.

As documented from the US State Department Report, “Overview of State-Sponsored Terrorism, Patterns of Global Terrorism -2000, Released by the Office of the Coordinator for Counterterrorism, April 2001”, the Cuban role in terror and meddling in other countries affairs actively continues to this day

Excerpted from the Coordinator for Counterterrorism’s report

“Cuba continued to provide safe haven to several terrorists and US fugitives in 2000. A number of Basque ETA terrorists who gained sanctuary in Cuba some years ago continued to live on the island, as did several US terrorist fugitives.

Havana also maintained ties to other state sponsors of terrorism and Latin American insurgents. Colombia's two largest terrorist organizations, the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia and the National Liberation Army, both maintained a permanent presence on the island of Cuba ..”

Cuba has installed a Cuban style political control, intimidation and suppression system in Venezuela on behalf of Hugo Chavez in return for oil to prop up Cuba's failing economy and and it's Cuban General Intelligence Directorate thugs and military “advisers” and Cuban expat mercenary soldiers have kept Hugo Chavez and his successor in power and have brutally terrorized and suppressed political opposition

Cuba was heavily involved in the attempted Marxist takeover of Honduras led by Manuel Zelaya both as direct actor as well as in collaboration with Hugo Chavez in Venezuela.

This is just a small overview of the unprovoked horror Cuba has inflicted on the rest of the world and the terrorist and Socio-Anarchist revolutionary groups and movements Cuba actively supports to this day .

The only thing that limits the damage the malignant Castro regime in Cuba is willing to unilaterally inflict on the rest of the world is that Castro has so badly run the country into the ground economically, politically and morally that Cuba is a broken down, basket case country barely able to feed it's population.

The current self inflicted weakness of Cuba has seriously degraded it's ability to support international terror and export revolution and anything that President Obama does to support Cuba will directly assist Cuba in expanding it's support of international terror and allow it to resume it's active export of Marxist Revolution around the globe. Hope this is helpful

25 posted on 12/21/2014 11:15:37 AM PST by rdcbn
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To: rdcbn

Unless I’m confused, the issue is not whether Cuba has been naughty.

It’s whether: A. sanctions have proven to be effective at modifying Cuban behavior; and B. whether Cuba has done anything that multiple other countries with which we’ve long had “normal” relations have not also done.

That said, the US has long been the only country imposing sanctions on Cuba, so it’s not exactly like they’ve been cut off from the world.


26 posted on 12/21/2014 12:42:10 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: rdcbn

Your post revolves around how bad Cuba is under Castro is.
And I am in complete agreement. It is still very bad!

However the subject at hand is trade embargo.

Again, I ask the same question...
Has the 50 year old trade embargo been a success?
Is Cuba behaving better than 50 years ago? Yon answered that in your post. such as Castro’s influence in Venezuela.

Richard Nixon visited communist China and that was the beginning of China re-entering the world trade.

May be we should try something different with Cuba after 50 years. You know what they say about doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result? Insanity!


30 posted on 12/21/2014 3:00:50 PM PST by entropy12 (Dumb and Dumber to borrow money from China to protect oil flow to China from middle-east.)
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