Posted on 12/18/2014 3:23:08 PM PST by BunnySlippers
Doesn’t sound like demerol. See effects of demerol at http://www.rxlist.com/demerol-side-effects-drug-center.htm .
Butters is a conspiracy nut, not playing with a full deck, if you try to read her ravings, all of this is part of a large political conspiracy, and so are all the freepers who think that Cosby is probably a rapist, involved in the conspiracy.
I am in no way diminishing the seriousness of assault, the victims, innocent until proven guilty, etc. I don’t know the facts. That said, excuse the bluntness, why would Cosby need to drug chicks to get laid? He wouldn’t, even to this day. So this is either bull squeeze or a some kind of sexual fetish.
Maybe not. It has been noted since the lawsuit was settled a few years ago now no new allegations have been made that occurred following the settlement. All the current ones as far as I know predate the lawsuit. Either the lawsuit spooked him or a change of MO or something else like maybe aging has happened.
“Blackouts up to 24 hours is not 2 days.”
Blackouts up to 24 hours spans the two days these women are talking about, and that also does not account for any additional factors. In some instances the date rape drug may have been administered in an alcoholic beverage, which is dangerous enough to cause death in some instances and perhaps may extend the time in which a blackout or recovery from the blackout would take. We also have no way of knowing whether or not another dose of the date rape drug was administered by the rapist. Conceivably the rape victim could be blacked out for 8 to 16 hours, begin to awake in a lethargic stupor for minutes or an hour or more, then have an additional dose of the date rape drug administered, and finally wake up from the blackouts two whole days after the first dose with no memory of the brief period of stupor between the two blackouts.
And what evidence do you have of any of this? We don’t know you from jack, on an anonymous forum. You’ve claimed to be many different things, on this forum.
The Playboy stories are suspect. He coulda had Hefner get any gal he wanted, for him to do anything he wanted - no drugs necessary. Coulda done it all in the orgy room, or take them to his place, or whatever. Why, if the guy coulda had anything he wanted, would he drug women? Where is the thrill of the hunt in that? He could get the same thing with an inflate-a-woman.
Interesting that the loudest people on FR who have suspended skepticism on the factual issues involved in these stories all seem to have some kind of connection with the same Hollywood types who are ALSO paying no attention to the factual details.
The stories about the drugs are not fitting the descriptions of what various drugs actually do. And there are other discrepancies also.
I have no idea what kind of guy Cosby is. I suppose there are probably bar-maids who don’t like him. If they didn’t say why, it could be that he tips badly. Who knows? What I do know is that the stories themselves don’t pass muster.
Some of these are new, and within the statute of limitations, and so the LAPD is launching criminal investigations and will be executing warrants.
“That said, excuse the bluntness, why would Cosby need to drug chicks to get laid?”
Such a fetish is more about a form of sadistic thrill in wielding the power conferred upon a person with the status of a celebrity. Trades people have commented upon the way in which Bill Cosby was verbally abusive to his family members and the trades people he hires. Now we have the story coming out of the David Letterman Show commenting about the strange demands Bill Cosby makes for women in his dressing room as he eats curry. Whether or not the allegations are truthful, those allegations appear to describe a person with serious control and power fetishes expressed only in part as rape.
Anything COULD have happened. Especially when there’s no evidence.
We don’t convict a person based on what COULD HAVE happened. In the courts, or in a fair-minded person’s mind. What matters is evidence.
What woman would be blacked out for 2 days and not see a doctor to find out what had just happened? Did any of these women who were blacked out for these extended periods ever even think of seeing a doctor about it? Especially this Vanessa Williams who says she knows a drug when she experiences it because she experimented with drugs - how could she not visit a doctor about it, to find out what had just happened to her?
She went there in the afternoon? 24 hours would be the following afternoon - not 2 days later. This gal doesn’t say what the “brown drink” was - makes me wonder if she hasn’t yet decided whether she wants to say it’s coffee, or booze. If it was booze you’d think she would have known it was booze, and if it was booze and doubled the effect of the drug to a point of overdose, wouldn’t her body have had some effects from overdose?
What claims are within the statute of limitations?
Huth perjured herself to claim she didn’t know she was injured, if it is true that she tried to sell her story to tabloids in 2005.
LAPD has said they will waste taxpayer money and time on cases even if they are not prosecutable. So what cases are they going to launch criminal investigations of, that ARE within the statute of limitations?
What kind of power fetish would be fulfilled by raping a woman who’s basically like a dead person? That is the OPPOSITE of a power rush.
Maybe Cosby had the girls watch him eat curry so they could be spared what Letterman had in mind for them.
You would rather lie, and do your narratives rather than just check the facts?
Do you realize how insane and obsessed you sound on these threads? All your raving and conspiracies and silly analysis and interpretations and wild claims, as your conspiracy even includes dozens or hundreds of freepers here, in your fantasies as you dismiss everyone, and everything, all in some bizarre obsession with defending Bill Cosby, and your fantasy that we are all in cahoots.
Bingo!
He,s a sicko who gets off on taking women who are completely helpless and incapacitated.
Many of the women WANTED to have sex w him. ‘
“And what evidence do you have of any of this?”
Only my personal anecdote, which is good enough to give me reason to keep an open mind in regard to the accused and the accusers. What someone else wants to do with that information in the court of public opinion is their decision and their responsibility.
“We don’t know you from jack, on an anonymous forum.”
You don’t need to, because arguing from a basis of authority is false logic anyway.
“You’ve claimed to be many different things, on this forum.”
Of course I have, after living a nearly full life into semi-retirement. I lived not far from Hollywood and sometimes worked in Hollywood for many years. My work sometimes included the motion picture industry in Hollywood. I worked as a cocktail bartender and a bar manager at the same time I served with the Air National Guard and the Air Force. My career in accounting information services and the IT industries followed those earlier years, but continued some of my connections with the motion picture industry.
“The Playboy stories are suspect. He coulda had Hefner get any gal he wanted, for him to do anything he wanted - no drugs necessary. Coulda done it all in the orgy room, or take them to his place, or whatever. Why, if the guy coulda had anything he wanted, would he drug women? Where is the thrill of the hunt in that? He could get the same thing with an inflate-a-woman.”
No, that is not necessarily so at all. See the etiology of paraphilic coercive disorder and sexual sadism disorder for just two of many possible explanations for the alleged rapes.
“Interesting that the loudest people on FR who have suspended skepticism on the factual issues involved in these stories all seem to have some kind of connection with the same Hollywood types who are ALSO paying no attention to the factual details.”
False claim.
“The stories about the drugs are not fitting the descriptions of what various drugs actually do. And there are other discrepancies also.”
Another false claim. There is no evidence to support a claim that only one dose of the date rape was used.
“I have no idea what kind of guy Cosby is. I suppose there are probably bar-maids who don’t like him. If they didn’t say why, it could be that he tips badly. Who knows? What I do know is that the stories themselves don’t pass muster.”
That is your expressed opinion which does not appear to be supported by the evidence we see, and you still have not explained why you should have the right to deny the accusers of their right to free speech. Don’t you believe in the First amendment right to free speech?
Dozens or hundreds of Freepers here? When did I ever say that? There are a handful of Freepers who get on these Cosby threads and act just like they do on other threads where the regime et al really wants to push a narrative - and these people always push the regime’s narrative. On threads where people brag in other forums about being trolls on FR.
You’re the one claiming that there are cases within the statute of limitations so it’s your job to substantiate that.
I’ve got better things to do with my time than argue with ad-hominem slingers.
I just encourage thinking people to consider what evidence there is to support the accusations, versus what evidence there is to REFUTE the accusations.
Bear in mind that each false accusation actually works to REFUTE the other accusations, because it blows away the “Why would these women lie?” epistemology. Look long and hard at the Huth perjury in claiming she just found out she was harmed, and at the “pre-rape photos” that don’t fit the other woman’s story (I forgot her name at the moment).
Also bear in mind that one of the alleged victims says there was no talk about any drugging and raping until 2004, which was actually BEFORE any woman made a police report claiming anything about rape or drugs. These women only came forward as a pack so that the NUMBER of claims would be the issue rather than the CREDIBILITY of the claims, and they only did it after discussing it the year before saying anything. IOW, these women did not come out in support of Constand in her lawsuit as the official story claims; they came together and planned the stories BEFORE Constand decided to claim that she was raped.
And all that happened AFTER Bill Cosby gave his “pound cake” speech and angered the political left, which is what Hollywood almost exclusively is.
I’m outta here. Life is too short to waste.
Is the NSA still spying on you?
When you reported to the police that the NSA was inside your computer, did they give any indication that the NSA is also involved in the anti-Cosby conspiracy?
Do you connect the computer problems you are having because of the NSA putting you under surveillance, with your defending of Cosby?
Administer it a second or third time when a girl is starting to wake up. People also react to drugs differently.
Some of these women are copycats. Some are, I think, telling the truth.
One wonders if there is a stash of movies or photographs somewhere.
Ok.....I was led to believe that the Constand lawsuit settlement with the claim of a January 2004 assault was the last in chronology. If there have been more recent dates I was unaware of them.
You were right, but I guess during the last week a couple of more have come forward, I thought Goins was assaulted in 2006, but the Daily Mail is saying 2008.
“”Bill Cosby is reportedly under police investigation amid his shocking rape allegations, the Daily Mail reports. Sources tell the site that even more women have privately come forward claiming sexual abuse, and some of the incidents fall within statute of limitations.
“I have sat down with my client and have a full understanding of the issues involved and what has occurred,” Florida attorney Mr. Kuvin tells Daily Mail of one case. “The police will be doing additional investigative work which will include things like issuing search warrants.”
One woman in particular who will sit down with LAPD is Chloe Goins. The 24-year-old model recently claimed that Cosby, now 77, spiked her drink and attacked her back in 2008 at the Playboy Mansion.
“I have had lengthy communications with the Los Angeles Police Department and there is now a definitive open investigation which is ongoing for, it’s my understanding, not only with Chloe’s case but other unnamed victims who have yet to be revealed publicly,” Mr. Kuvin added. “They want to get all their information first before sitting down and having an interview with Chloe about her incident. This is scheduled to happen early in the new year.”””
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