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To: butterdezillion

“Did you see anybody moving to take off jewelry in Puentes’ video?”

The video is only the 10-15 seconds of the flight. What happened before then?

“he USCG helos have advanced equipment to monitor and treat stuff like heart attacks, but they took the time to take off her socks and shoes so they could tap both of her feet, in order to determine if she was dead?”

You mean like it says in the USCG CPR protocol?


368 posted on 11/16/2014 9:40:22 PM PST by 4Zoltan
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To: 4Zoltan

Marilyn Briley had earrings on. The men nearly all had watches on.

I honestly don’t think Kawasaki took the time to tell them to take off their jewelry. That would be the absolute lowest priority for him as he was trying to get the plane landed safely in that minute or so. You may be thinking of flights where there are flight attendants to give messages like that. This was just Kawasaki, no flight attendant and no co-pilot - and very little time, as opposed to a flight that is tens of thousands of feet altitude when they realize they’re going down.

The protocol at http://www.uscg.mil/health/docs/pdf/sar_cpr_protocols.pdf says,

“3. The following must be observed and recorded by CG EMS provider: No pulse in carotid artery or cardiac
apex for 60 seconds (if available, a cardiac monitor must be used); No respiratory effort for 60 seconds
despite open airway (if available, a stethoscope must be used for confirmation); Unresponsive to painful
stimulus such as a sternal rub and no tendon reflexes; No pupillary reflexes (i.e. pupils non-responsive to
light and remain fixed and dilated) and no corneal reflexes; No evidence of drug overdose as the cause of
unresponsivenenss”

Nowhere does it say to take off socks and shoes and check the planar reflex. Tendon reflexes can be tested through a variety of means. And the planar reflex would not have to be tested in both feet even if it was the means for testing reflexes.

But a funny thing happened when I went to check the USCG protocols. The link that Linda had given me, to make sure I knew where to find this stuff (http://www.uscg.mil/hq/cg5/cg534/nsarc/Land_SAR_Addendum/Published_Land%20SAR%20Addendum%20%281118111%29%20-%20Bookmark.pdf 0 - which I had opened and looked at just a few days ago - now requires a password. I’ve got a screenshot of it. Why would a password be required for a public document right now (after you made the claim about socks and shoes having to be taken off)?

I went to archive.org to save the page on the first link cited above and found that it is excluded from the Wayback machine. Normally Wayback Machine will say that it’s not on the Wayback machine but it is on the web - and asks if you would like to save it on the web. Didn’t happen this time.

Fortunately, I had already saved it, and I think I’ve saved the other one too if I can find it.

Funny things are happening in relationship to your posts, 4Zoltan. Folks may have noticed that I’m not using q for g any more. That’s because I can’t (currently) use the laptop that had the bad g key. As I was typing a response to one of your posts 2 days ago all of a sudden my computer wouldn’t display any type from the laptop keyboard or from a USB keyboard that I plugged in. It would let me use the mouse and it recognized that I had input type from the keyboard(s) but it would not allow anything from the keyboard to show up or be accepted by the computer. It means that I can’t enter the password to unlock my computer once the computer is decrypted.

Something happened to my computer in the middle of when I was preparing to post a response to one of your posts.

Exactly what connections do you have to this lawless regime?


370 posted on 11/17/2014 4:43:49 AM PST by butterdezillion (Note to self : put this between arrow keys: img src=""/)
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