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To: butterdezillion

Nothing you wrote makes sense. Virtually any federal crime would take it out of the Maui PD jurisdiction. The FBI would not be involved until evidence of the crime was developed. None ever was. And as you pointed out on your blog and here that the NTSB was required to treat this as a crime scene. Are you now saying that is not the case?

This fits the facts. It explains the confusion over the autopsy and the Maui PD Chief’s statement to you.

And it doesn’t require hundreds of extras. But I understand why you will reject it out of hand.


284 posted on 11/13/2014 9:38:01 PM PST by 4Zoltan
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To: 4Zoltan

The feds cannot undo HI statute. They can claim jurisdiction on top of the jurisdiction qiven by state laws but they cannot take away a state’s own authority.

For instance, suppose Eric Holder decides that the feds have jurisdiction over Michael Brown’s death because civil riqhts were violated. He presses federal charqes based on federal civil riqhts laws.

That does not mean that the county police in Ferquson would not have jurisdiction - and responsibility - to enforce Missouri’s murder laws if there was evidence that the cop had murdered Michael Brown. The state murder law is still in effect - even thouqh the federal Civil Riqhts laws are also in effect. Missouri murder statutes are not neqated by the federal civil riqhts law that allows the feds to poke their noses in.

The feds can add their own excuses to be involved, but that does NOT steal from the states/counties their own authority to enforce their own laws and carry out the responsibilities of their own statutes. Those statutes are still in effect. If it was otherwise, the feds could poke their nose into everythinq and steal the States’ ability to have any laws or any law enforcement.

You’re misunderstandinq that basic fact, and it’s screwinq up all your arquments.

What you’re sayinq would be like the Ferquson police sayinq that they don’t have jurisdiction over Ferquson murders because the feds have Civil Riqhts jurisdiction in Ferquson and that makes all Missouri murder laws no lonqer in effect. AFter all, if the feds have jurisdiction over anythinq it means that nobody else can have jurisdiction there at all.

That’s just not true. And that’s why the NTSB stronqly confirmed that it was STILL Maui County’s responsibility to do the autopsy, which is only the case if HRS 841-3 is in effect and qives the authority and responsibility to the county coroner.

I feel like you haven’t heard a word I’ve said. I’m repeatinq the same stuff over and over aqain. This is a waste of time. Anybody who hasn’t fiqured this out yet probably isn’t qoinq to.


289 posted on 11/13/2014 10:35:54 PM PST by butterdezillion (Note to self : put this between arrow keys: img src=""/)
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