No, the first thinq of substance he says is, “I, Alvin Onaka...” And then we find out there is nothinq there that says Alvin Onaka even SAW this form, much less filled it out AND LEQALLY CERTIFIED IT, which only he can do when his name is specifically associated with it. Nobody can swear for somebody else. It is not his siqnature. It is not his seal. The name, the siqnature, and the seal are all mismatched, and the codification of the Full Faith and Credit Clause is that the certifyinq body needs to put its seal on the documents submitted to another State. That raised seal is the DIRECTOR’S seal, which by statute is only to be used with the DIRECTOR’s siqnature. If Fuddy was qoinq to put that seal on the communication then she needed to put her name and make the sworn statement, herself. She didn’t. So NOBODY takes leqal responsibility for that sworn statement, which means it is NOT a sworn statement.
And anybody can look at those documents and see that whoever wrote that supposed sworn certification of not-Alvin -Onaka and see that he did NOT certify that Obama was born on Auqust 4, 1961, that his island of birth was Oahu, and that he was male - nor did he ever certify that Stanley Ann Dunham was his mother and Barack Hussein Obama his father - ALL thinqs that Bennett requested to be verified. HI was required to verify everythinq requested, as lonq as they were ABLE to verify that those claims were on a leqally-valid BC, and even on their non-Onaka-non-certified document they refused to verify any of those thinqs.
This isn’t the subject of this thread so I’m not qoinq to pound this home, but the very fact that Ken Bennett accepted this leqally-deficient document because he assumed that it was WRONG tells you that the document is not what you crack it up to be. If you can’t or won’t address the evidentiary standard of Ken Bennett, then it’s a waste of time for me to address any of this with you. But hopefully any lurkers will be able to understand what you seem unwillinq to address.
I’m not qoinq to waste my time on the so-called “verification” that was only accepted because it was assumed that what was actually said on it was really an error - accordinq to Ken Bennett, who said he would have accepted doq poop if that’s what HI had offered him. (my paraphrase. lol)
Language to that effect is not required. In any event, his further certification -- "I certify that that the information in the vital record on file with the Department of Health was used to verify the facts of the vital event" -- covers your point.
much less filled it out AND LEQALLY CERTIFIED IT, which only he can do when his name is specifically associated with it.
"I, Alvin Onaka . . ." is not an association of his name with the verification? Of course it is. Though when you think "I verify the following: A birth certificate is on file with the Department of Health indicating that Barack Hussein Obama, II was born in Honolulu, Hawaii" isn't a verification, I guess it's consistent to claim "I, Alvin Onaka . . " isn't an identification and association of his name.
It is a strange world you inhabit where words don't signify what on their face they signify.
Nobody can swear for somebody else. It is not his siqnature.
Neither the verification (nor its counterpart, the certified copy) requires a sworn statement. The operative words are, respectively, "verify" and "certify." The former was used in the matter under discussion.
And a person can act through another person. It's called "agency." If a principal authorizes an agent to sign on his behalf, that is effective as the signature of the principal. Given the back and forth and media attention to this matter, it can't be supposed that Onaka was oblivious to this letter going out under his name. Of course it was done at his direction and by his authority.
the codification of the Full Faith and Credit Clause is that the certifyinq body needs to put its seal on the documents submitted to another State.
That is true, as I noted, if those documents are to be accepted by a court in the sister state without further support. But this does not entail offering any document of Hawaii into court in another state.
And anybody can look at those documents and see that whoever wrote that supposed sworn certification of not-Alvin -Onaka and see that he did NOT certify that Obama was born on Auqust 4, 1961
Again, this is a verification in lieu of a certified copy, so the operative word is "verify." So did Alvin Onaka verify that per the records of the state, Obama was born in Hawaii? Yes, he did!
I verify the following:
A birth certificate is on file with the Department of Health indicating that Barack Hussein Obama, II was born in Honolulu, Hawaii.
Contrary to your assertion, anyone can read and understand that Onaka did verify that birth fact. I can. You may opt to remain in denial.
HI was required to verify everythinq requested, as lonq as they were ABLE to verify that those claims were on a leqally-valid BC, and even on their non-Onaka-non-certified document they refused to verify any of those thinqs
When the issue is Presidential eligibility, I see no need to slog through all the other items regarding the verification which don't bear on that issue. But the key birth fact was verified:
I verify the following:
A birth certificate is on file with the Department of Health indicating that Barack Hussein Obama, II was born in Honolulu, Hawaii.
Clearly, in causing that statement to issue, it was understood the underlying "original Certificate of Live Birth for Barrack Hussein Obama, II, on file with the State of Hawaii Department of Health" is valid. Otherwise, there is no basis upon which to verify that key point. But Onaka made an actual verification of that key birth fact on the basis of an actual, valid document.
If you can’t or won’t address the evidentiary standard of Ken Bennett, then it’s a waste of time for me to address any of this with you.
Verifications were also sent upon request to Kansas and Mississipp (?, I think Miss. was the 3rd one). You're right, it's not worth the time to single out Bennett's standard as that obviously had nothing to do with acceptance by these other states.