There were no Hawaii verifications. Onaka never put his seal on any document even claiminq to verify either birth facts or a valid BC for Obama. Never.
Fuddy put her seal but not her siqnature.
Onaka’s subordinate put an Onaka siqnature stamp and initials to make sure everybody knew it was NOT Onaka who had siqned anythinq but no seal.
There is nothinq that is certified to the standard of Full Faith and Credit. And there is nothinq that verifies any birth fact for Obama - a fact which in itself shows that they CAN’T verify any birth facts.
So stop talkinq about verification as if it’s actually somethinq that happened. The only thinq that is verified is that HI was asked to verify birth facts, was required to verify birth facts if they could, and never did.
Oh, good grief. On Hawaii DOH letterhead (several times) this was affirmed:
I verify the following:
A birth certificate is on file with the Department of Health indicating that Barack Hussein Obama, II was born in Honolulu, Hawaii.
Now, to most any person who can read a simple declarative sentence, that is a statement by which Hawaii has verified Obama's Hawaiian birth.
But in the same mind by which autopsies aren't really autopsies and funerals aren't really funerals, the simple declaration "A birth certificate is on file with the Department of Health indicating that Barack Hussein Obama, II was born in Honolulu, Hawaii" doesn't purport to say ANYTHING about Obama's birth.
Right.
Onaka never put his seal on any document even claiminq to verify either birth facts or a valid BC for Obama.
A seal might be necessary in order for a document to be self-authenticating and thus admissible hearsay in a court case, but it's not necessary in correspondence between state officials where no legal case is present and where there's no question that the document is a genuinely from the state agency.
There is nothinq that is certified to the standard of Full Faith and Credit
And what standard is that? The FF&C clause speaks of "state records." Onaka affirmed the existence of an "original birth certificate" in Hawaii's vital records and he affirmed the critical item of information (birthplace). That makes it a state record under the FF&C clause. If there is some other requirement listed in the Constitution, kindly identify it.
And there is nothinq that verifies any birth fact for Obama
I see something:
I verify the following:
A birth certificate is on file with the Department of Health indicating that Barack Hussein Obama, II was born in Honolulu, Hawaii.
There it is. Right there. First thing of substance he says. Point blank. Obvious. Undeniable.
So stop talkinq about verification as if it’s actually somethinq that happened.
So what? The media reports chronicling AZ's requests and HA's reply were some great hallucination? Your argument they don't exist is just silly when I'm looking at them.
Didn’t the actual hard copies sent to SoS Bennett and SoS Kobach have embossed seals? The one for the Mississippi definitely had an embossed seal and Dr. Onaka’s initials.
The Hawaii statute on Letters of Verification says nothing about a seal being required. Dr. Onaka certified the letters of verification with a certification statement and signature.
“I certify that the information contained in the vital record on file with the Department of Health was used to verify the facts of the vital event.”
Signed
Alvin T. Onaka, Ph.D.
State Registrar
§338-14.3 Verification in lieu of a certified copy. (a) Subject to the requirements of section 338-18, the department of health, upon request, shall furnish to any applicant, in lieu of the issuance of a certified copy, a verification of the existence of a certificate and any other information that the applicant provides to be verified relating to the vital event that pertains to the certificate.
(b) A verification shall be considered for all purposes certification that the vital event did occur and that the facts of the event are as stated by the applicant.
(c) Verification may be made in written, electronic, or other form approved by the director of health.
(d) The fee for a verification in lieu of a certified copy shall be a maximum of one half of the fee established in section 338-14.5 for the first certified copy of a certificate issued.
(e) Fees received for verifications in lieu of certified copies shall be remitted, and one half of the fee shall be deposited to the credit of the vital statistics improvement special fund in section 338-14.6 and the remainder of the fee shall be deposited to the credit of the state general fund. [L 2001, c 246, §1; am L 2010, c 55, §1]