Posted on 10/25/2014 11:04:54 PM PDT by Up Yours Marxists
The Mormon church has admitted that its founder was a polygamist who married a 14-year-old girl, breaking a lengthy silence about its history.
Joseph Smith, who wrote the Book of Mormon and established the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, is thought to have married as many as 50 women, but for years the senior church officials did not address the subject.
But this week the organization acknowledged that the practice took place, and named Helen Mar Kimball, 'who was sealed to Joseph several months before her 15th birthday.'
Estimates have placed the total number of Smith's wives between 27 and 50, though the church said it is impossible to say for sure.
However, it suggested many of his marriages may not have involved sex, and that Smith was reluctant to adopt the practice, which was eventually banned in 1890.
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Mormon church admits founder Joseph Smith was a polygamist who married a 14-year-old - but says many of his marriages 'may not have involved sex'
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Short Average Life Expectancy numbers are driven mainly by high infant mortality. Adults commonly lived much longer than 30. 1000 years ago we weren't freaking Neanderthals. (Just setting the record straight.)
Not getting into any other parts of your post but this point is one that is generally misunderstood.
Short Average Life Expectancy numbers are driven mainly by high infant mortality. Adults commonly lived much longer than 30. 1000 years ago we weren't freaking Neanderthals. (Just setting the record straight.)
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I agree, and for the reasons you cite.
” I dont have a high opinion of the whole cult.”
That is the beauty of America, you don’t have to join if you don’t want to!
Absolutely! and I don’t have to apologize for my opinion either!
Seriously, lots of people married early back then. My own grandmother married at 16 and it was not unusual. She had already finished high school by that age.
I have Mormon friends and they are very dear and generous people. All religions have weird stuff in them, mine, yours, all of em.
1000 years ago there was no penicillin, no quinine, no way to fix appendicitis, ulcers, tonsillitis etc with simple surgery.
More people died with Pneumonia than any other cause. It made lot of sense to get girls married early when they were able to conceive.
That would have been quite a feat, considering that graduating from high school in the early 20th century was a true achievement, demonstrated by the fact that most people did not accomplish it.
As I wrote earlier, my great-grandmother married at 16, but I know she didn't graduate from high school, and it's likely she never even went to high school; her grandson, my father, was the second in the family to accomplish that, back in '41, with his oldest brother being the first.
But there's another point hidden here, that no one has said as far as I can tell. Mormonism has a sordid past, but a 21st century nation of Mormons, at least from a worldly perspective--what happens to them after they die is a separate issue--would probably form the closest thing to a perfect society. How Mormonism got from Joseph Smith to, say, Mitt and Anne Romney, is little short of miraculous. Contrast that with, say, Islam, which began as a Dark Ages cult, and is in the process of returning to its Dark-Aged practices, to the extent that it ever left them throughout the last 1400 years.
1000 years ago? It was the same 90 years ago.
I would add that I'm not on SSA yet, but I was part of the last generation of children to live in fear of polio: I remember my parents having a thick medical guidebook, the size of a college dictionary, and a whole chapter was set side to provide information on how to avoid polio, how to diagnose it as early as possible, and what was likely to happen to those who became juvenile polio patients.
Have you found any evidence about Mormons beheading non-believers of Mormononism? Any evidence Mormons stone women to death for adultery? Does the Mormon religion holy book teach that they would get 72 virgins in heaven by fighting religious wars and dying in the process? If above is true, then you are correct. If not, you are grasping at the straws.
That makes sense. 1000 years ago.
But still, life expectancy is influenced by infant mortality.
“Life expectancy differs from maximum life span. Life expectancy is an average, computed over all people including those who die shortly after birth, those who die in early adulthood in childbirth or in wars, and those who live unimpeded until old age, whereas lifespan is an individual-specific concept and maximum lifespan is an upper bound rather than an average.” - wikipedia
I don’t think human lifespan has changed in 40,000 years.
That makes sense. 1000 years ago.
But still, life expectancy is influenced by infant mortality.
“Life expectancy differs from maximum life span. Life expectancy is an average, computed over all people including those who die shortly after birth, those who die in early adulthood in childbirth or in wars, and those who live unimpeded until old age, whereas lifespan is an individual-specific concept and maximum lifespan is an upper bound rather than an average.” - wikipedia
I don’t think human lifespan has changed in 40,000 years.
No multiple legal spouses that I can find.
What a silly person you are, you should try to focus on the topics rather than play the schoolyard girl.
You will have to explain that one to me. Looks like a pic you artistically attained from JoeProBono.
You are sure about that?
“), but I have known Mormons who were among the nicest people you could imagine and a few who were and I’m sure still are outright lying bastards. “
I’ll drink to that.
“How intelligent people could believe in a religion founded by a man with Smith’s history or gullibly accept the whole Golden Book, Angel Moroni (some jokes just write themselves), ............”
Well if you are told this since a child. What else would you believe? It’s like the story of the baby elephant. When an elephant is a baby they stake it’s let to the ground and he pulls and pulls but can’t pull the stake out. When the elephant is grown they chain his let to the stake and he just stands there. Mind you he can pull the whole circus tent down with his strength but in his mind he can not. He was taught as a baby that he can’t
All religions are like that really. The day I got up and said “I’m not buying this anymore” and left taking down the circus tent with me it shocked the clowns in my last church.
I think that's something to do with Jersey.
One day a few years back I was traveling from Jersey to Florida. Old women got on the full bus. I was the only one who offered her my seat.
On the shuttle bus in Tampa, an old woman got on the full bus. Just about every man in the bus stood up to offer her a seat.
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