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Nurses warn they aren’t prepared to treat Ebola
Sacramento Bee ^ | 10-15-2014 | SAMMY CAIOLA

Posted on 10/19/2014 10:24:46 PM PDT by Citizen Zed

Diane McClure, a nurse at Kaiser Permanente South Sacramento Medical Center, said Monday that Kaiser and other health care providers aren’t doing nearly enough, and the guidelines issued to hospitals by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control fall short of what’s needed to prepare hospital staff who could be on the front lines should Ebola patients start to arrive.

“We’ve been going for weeks being told it’s fine, and it’s not fine,” McClure said. “It’s scary when you’re worried about potentially dying, and you work for a hospital that could give you proper protection and it doesn’t appear they’re doing it. They’re going by the CDC guidelines that from the beginning weren’t strict enough.”

McClure said she has not received any (Ebola) training from Kaiser.

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The nurses' union should just get the janitors' union to do cleanup. If the janitors won't do cleanup, get a cleaner like Harvey Keitel to do it.
1 posted on 10/19/2014 10:24:46 PM PDT by Citizen Zed
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To: Citizen Zed

How much of an incentive do they need? It only your life!


2 posted on 10/19/2014 10:37:37 PM PDT by Domangart (Tho I walk Through the valley of Wall Mart, I fear no man.)
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To: Domangart

I’m wondering if older, highly experienced nurses who are at or near retirement age will leave if it gets too dangerous.


3 posted on 10/19/2014 10:40:22 PM PDT by grania
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To: Citizen Zed

And here Kaiser is one of the more successful insurance groups.


4 posted on 10/19/2014 10:43:17 PM PDT by jetson (we got a bog fcking problem her)
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To: Citizen Zed
(article):"..They’re going by the CDC guidelines that from the beginning weren’t strict enough.”

The CDC wasn't ready for this
The hospitals weren't adequately trained
The hospitals still aren't adequately equipped with mechanicals, or equipment for bio-hazard Level IV disease.
The CDC has suspended all medical protocals, pending imminent revision, an will be avaialble ...... (whenever)...(crickets )...(popcorn)...
Take your complaints to CDC Frieden , or "PoppaDOC Obola" who is the smartest guy in the nation on healthcare.
If you don't beleive him , ask him again !.. because I am sick and tired of his lies .

5 posted on 10/19/2014 10:45:08 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt
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To: grania
I’m wondering if older, highly experienced nurses who are at or near retirement age will leave if it gets too dangerous.

It's already happening. Sorry, I can't supply you a source.

6 posted on 10/19/2014 10:53:26 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (Take the chip and let them hack your brain.)
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To: Citizen Zed

They’re using this as leverage in their pending strike, which is really too bad. This matter is too serious for contract negotiations, but if they get management to move they might just have accomplished something.


7 posted on 10/19/2014 10:55:16 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (Take the chip and let them hack your brain.)
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To: grania

The old, fat ones and smokers find another place to work. The young get the floors and the ones with a ticket work the ER.


8 posted on 10/19/2014 11:09:20 PM PDT by Domangart (Tho I walk Through the valley of Wall Mart, I fear no man.)
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To: Citizen Zed

“It’s scary when you’re worried about potentially dying”

She should be worried. Sacramento has a large Liberian enclave which is probably increasing everyday.


9 posted on 10/19/2014 11:19:58 PM PDT by Selene
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

a-frickin-men


10 posted on 10/19/2014 11:39:02 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: grania

...”I’m wondering if older, highly experienced nurses who are at or near retirement age will leave if it gets too dangerous.”...

Yes, they will leave and younger ones will leave, too. The survival instinct is too strong to stay in a situation where one’s own life is being threatened unnecessarily. Additionally, what will we do if a disease like this takes our medical professionals..Who will step in to give medical care here?


11 posted on 10/20/2014 3:02:10 AM PDT by jazzlite (esat)
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To: grania

I’m a 60 year old nurse with 35 years experience. The only reason I keep working is for the health insurance. The hospital I work at near Seattle recently posted an email stating that all staff are expected to care for ebola patients if we get any. Part of the email details what protective equipment will be used...and it’s no damn different from what we already use for patients with MRSA, tb, or c-diff.

Funny you should have asked this question as that was the first thought that crossed my mind after getting that infernal email only yesterday.


12 posted on 10/20/2014 4:12:53 AM PDT by Catmom (We're all gonna get the punishment only some of us deserve.)
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To: Citizen Zed

Rapper Cam’ron is selling an Ebola mask with his face printed on it
http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/29686121


13 posted on 10/20/2014 4:14:12 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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To: Catmom

The CDC protocol appears wholly inadequate as far as protective gear for those dealing directly with Ebola patients. I’ve heard rumblings that it’s being modified and I hope it is. But, if it isn’t I hope that decision-makers within individual hospitals create their own more effective protocols. It’s not as if there isn’t a model that’s been created in Africa for dealing effectively with the threat of workers getting infected. There’s no need at all to walk into a nightmare as occurred at Texas Health Presbyterian in Dallas.


14 posted on 10/20/2014 4:20:12 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If I die whose going to pay the bills for my family.

Policy is for the HCW who see the pt with Ebola is to stop work for the quarantine period, me as independent contractor, without pay.

Thankfully I have been offered The Obola Ebola burial plan from SSI of $254.


15 posted on 10/20/2014 4:26:03 AM PDT by urbanpovertylawcenter (the law and poverty collide in an urban setting and sparks fly)
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To: Citizen Zed

The government and CDC are not making correct policy at the top.

It is now incumbent on citizens to force correct policy from the bottom up - baggage handlers, pilots, nurses’ unions and other hospital workers unions, hospitals, police forces, local EMS and EMS councils.

I am starting to see this locally - sometimes all it takes is one person who is willing to publicly shed PC, and say we are not obliged to do this job if there’s a decent chance it will kill us. In fact we have an obligation not to do this job if it can kill us, and kill our families, and anyone down the line who must care for us.

We can not do this job without proper equipment, training, and facilities. We refuse.

Last night at a meeting I was the one willing to come out and say we cannot do this, we have a duty not to do this. And by the end, everyone dropped their hesitancy and PC and self-sacrifice no matter who else it sacrifices. It was what half of them thought at the beginning but didn’t want to say straight out, and the other half were pretty convinced by the end. Now we reach out to sister associations.


16 posted on 10/20/2014 4:34:53 AM PDT by heartwood
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To: Citizen Zed
those vile hate filled Calif Nurses Union goons are exploiting this mess to expand there Evil reach outside Union states.

These Nurses Unions are mire corrupt and pure evil,than any UAW goon.

17 posted on 10/20/2014 5:28:42 AM PDT by ncalburt ( Amnesty-media out in full force)
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To: Citizen Zed
An ER nurse I used to work with contracted both HIV *and* Hepatitis C from a needle stick during a code.Last I heard she wasn't doing well at all.I'm not sure I'd blame any physician,nurse,etc for refusing to treat ebola patients.

I saw my primary care doctor the other day for a routine exam.I told him of my plans to go to East Africa next month.Before I could ask him a few question I had he said "you're gonna do *what*?" He then said that he wouldn't even fly *over* the continent,let alone visit it.As I was leaving he said "if you get sick don't come here"...and I think he was serious.

That's just a short indication of how American health care workers feel about ebola...and my doctor is a senior staff member at one of Harvard Medical School's largest teaching hospitals.

18 posted on 10/20/2014 7:02:08 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Islamopobia:The Irrational Fear Of Being Beheaded)
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To: Catmom

You might want to check out my Post #18.


19 posted on 10/20/2014 7:03:57 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Islamopobia:The Irrational Fear Of Being Beheaded)
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