Posted on 10/13/2014 7:34:03 AM PDT by tcrlaf
-Source claims Lewisham hospital response to case was farcical
-Man was admitted despite plans to send Ebola patients to specialist centre
-One ward reportedly refused to have him and medics "reluctant" to treat him
-Came on same day as high-profile NHS drill in how to respond to outbreak
-Insider says staff only have aprons, masks and gloves - not bio suits
-Feverish patient later found not to have deadly Ebola virus
A London hospital was totally unprepared when a suspected Ebola patient walked into A&E, it was claimed today.
Health authorities have carried out high-profile drills in a bid to show that Britain is ready for the feared arrival of the disease.
But an insider at Lewisham hospital said the response when a potential case walked into casualty on Saturday night shows the reality of the situation is much worse.
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Childbirth death rate is 15 per 100K live births.
This makes it safer than being a fisherman (200 deaths per 100K per year), airline pilot (57.1 per 100K), logger(56.1), roofer(34.7), sanitation worker (25.2), and a number of other jobs mainly done by men.
Meanwhile, as an ER doc, Kozack will be on the front lines if Ebola spreads.
He always told me most cops have more empathy for criminals than for civilians. .
Your uncle said that? Wow. TIME for retirement. Most cops are trying to STOP the criminals from murder, rape, etc., NOT feeling empathy. THAT is 100% backasswards thinking.
They view the criminals as playing the same game (but from a different side)
The "same game"??? No, that is dead wrong. "Criminal" comes from the work "crime," that is, OUTSIDE the law.
We USED to call them OUTLAWS. That is what they are. Cops are the THIN BLUE LINE between those who would murder, rape and such and US.
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It can eat our your soul.
It can, if your soul is ruled by Lucifer, the erstwhile "light bearer" who, because of his PRIDE (first and foremost of the SEVEN DEADLY SINS), became SATAN, which means "adversary" in Hebrew.
Our good Lord rules my soul and I try very hard every day to be obedient to his Word. I don't murder, burn, pillage, loot. I don't even lie anymore. I still sin, but NOTHING like I did when I was young and STUPID.
The TEN COMMANDMENTS were a GIFT from our good God, our Creator, as He told us how to behave. They are complete.
Schadenfreude?
I didn't think there was anyone outside of educated Germany and Austria who knew that word. It's PERFECT for this scenario.
Since ebola has hit the U.S.A. it's only a matter of time before the poorest and the down and out (drug addicts and alcoholics) get it with a vengeance. THAT, combined with the usual respiratory and ague-like winter complaints, will demolish the less-than-healthy overnight.
There won't be much "Schadenfreude" when ebola is in our proverbial back yark--NIMBY will rule.
Well, since the government and hospital administrators have determined that the doctors are the least important part of health care, and since they don’t think that their expertise is of any value in determining the best way to deliver health care, and since they believe that most of the physician’s duties can be handled by ‘physician extenders’ at much less cost, let them deal with this themselves.
Doctors all over the nation are calling for halts to flights from infected countries, but the government is not listening. Bureaucrats are saying there is ‘no risk’ of epidemic when doctors know better. The government is causing this problem, let the government deal with it.
I’ve said it before, hospitals and doctors are not going to be able to contain this because the government is not doing their job. This disease is going to spread in the airports and restaurants and walmarts and buses and grocery stores of America.
If the government expects me to risk my life because of their stupidity, they can think again. The government has insinuated itself between me and my patients to such an extent that I no longer feel I am treating patients when I go to work, but administrators and computers and numbers. They have worked very hard to rewrite the patient-doctor relationship, and unfortunately, they have succeeded in both directions. This doctor will not be in the Emergency Department when the SHTF.
Do I sound angry, you bet I am. It has been building ever since governments and administrators have been telling me more and more how to practice medicine and that I am not a good physician because my ‘door to greet’ time is not what they say it should be and because I am not seeing enough patients per hour because mandated, inadequate computer charting takes several times longer to complete.
I never planned on retiring this early, but every day I get closer and closer. I suspect this is going to push me and many other physicians over the edge.
O2
You signed up for it, quit griping. Oh, and you all should have fought obamacare with all your might which you didn’t do.
Government is obtuse and stupid. I completely agree.
It is very common. When all you deal with is cops and criminals, you start to blend the two
One would THINK that wife, children, family, relatives and friends would keep them on track.
Perhaps a 20-YEAR service time should be the MAXIMUM time to be a cop...with FULL retirement as if they had worked twice those years.
I'd give it to them! They deserve it in SPADES.
I’m glad to hear that. But I still take exception to your apparent belief that those who have always risked their lives and health and families to take care of other people have no right to stop doing that at any time for any reason. Last time I checked, in America one is free to change their profession whenever they want to. I believe that when your profession suddenly becomes a likely death sentence, that is a good reason to consider change.
If it comes to it, I will gladly take care of friends and family, but I will not feel guilty about bowing out when the risk to take care of strangers becomes too great. I’ve done enough, as I suspect Kozak has as well as thousands and thousands of doctors, EMTs, nurses and other medical personnel.
O2
So now when you are needed you are all going to quit. Great.
Imagine if Phil Robertson showed up!
Yep, and most of the care these people will need will be supportive and require no special training other than how to properly use the protective clothing. One or two doctors and nurses can start the IV’s and do the initial evaluations/orders on a large number of patients without a lot of direct contact.
Feel free to volunteer at any time to suit up and take temperatures and change bedding and clean up after these patients.
Oh, and we’ve always been needed, so you’re welcome for all the years I’ve participated in it already.
O2
If only these hospitals were run by the government. Oh, wait.
One difference is that the symptomatic were quarantined in their homes.
There's a difference between a combat mission and a kamikaze mission. Being an under-equipped NHS worker borders on the latter.
And the lepers were confined on islands, right? Get real. It has always been dangerous dealing with infectious disease.
Well if it is a death sentence, say so and be done with it. But it’s not.
Danger is one thing. There is no treatment for the disease and it is 50% fatal. Is it worth infecting others to changing the victim's bed pan for the final few days?
No one can be expected to do that, although some may, exhibiting heroic virtue, like Fr. Damian.
If I get ebola, I'm at home, and there's no cure, I'd just tell my family, get the hell out, and burn the house down in a couple of weeks.
So it is civilized to let people die alone and in agony?
Would it make sense to have central clearing places for anyone with flu like symptoms before sending them to hospitals?
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