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Jimmy Cefalo: Paterno's Legacy Far Exceeds Football Victories
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Posted on 10/05/2014 12:43:21 PM PDT by FlJoePa

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To: DuncanWaring
I was only following orders He was FOLLOWING the LAW...
81 posted on 10/05/2014 5:53:52 PM PDT by Delta Dawn (Fluent in two languages: English and cursive.)
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To: Delta Dawn
I'm glad you brought up the shower incident, because that to me is the most disturbing piece of evidence of all. According to the grand jury testimony, it isn't about what McQuerry told Paterno he saw. It is about what McQuerry told Paterno he heard. McQuerry arrives at the locker building at night. He testifies that he sees lights coming from the shower area and hears water running. But before he actually enters the shower area, he testified that he heard the sound of human flesh slapping together. Do you understand? Sandusky was slamming his erect penis into the anus of an eleven-year-old boy with such force that the sound could be heard around the corner above the sound of running showers. And this is what he told Joe Paterno the next day - what he heard.

And what did the "fine man" named Joe Paterno do about it? Nothing. Not a damn thing. The "fine man" Joe Paterno could have stopped Sandusky in his tracks, preventing any more children to be victimized. But instead, the "fine man" Joe Paterno chose to be an enabler for a child predator.

There is a special place in hell reserved for "fine man" such as that.

82 posted on 10/05/2014 5:54:11 PM PDT by Hoodat (Article 4, Section 4)
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To: Delta Dawn
What action should Paterno have taken?

Driven McQuerry straight to the District Attorney's office for starters. Yet Paterno couldn't even manage to take Sandusky's keys away.

83 posted on 10/05/2014 5:57:20 PM PDT by Hoodat (Article 4, Section 4)
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To: Hoodat
And what did the "fine man" named Joe Paterno do about it? Nothing.

That is a lie and you know it...By state law, Paterno was required to inform his superiors at the university...He did that...If he had gone to the newspapers or anywhere else with that story, he could have been charged with a crime...do you get that?
84 posted on 10/05/2014 5:59:26 PM PDT by Delta Dawn (Fluent in two languages: English and cursive.)
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To: IrishBrigade
...as the preponderance of Paterno’s body of work mark him as a fine individual....

I think that's what Paterno's supporters struggle with the most: that he flushed decades of good work and deeds down the toilet with one fateful decision (to look the other way). But hey, that's life. Life's not fair.

85 posted on 10/05/2014 6:00:02 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Delta Dawn

Umm . . . he could have gone to the police. As would be his responsibility and obligation under the position he held at the University.


86 posted on 10/05/2014 6:01:39 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: BlackElk
McQueary and the janitor are both verrrry flawed witnesses.

That is the most pathetic claim I have seen yet. Apparently, their testimony was good enough to get Sandusky indicted, and Paterno fired. Yet you say it was very flawed.

It disgusts me to no end to see people fall to such evil depths to defend the enabling of child rape.

87 posted on 10/05/2014 6:01:43 PM PDT by Hoodat (Article 4, Section 4)
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To: 1rudeboy

He did go to the police, or is English not a first language for you...


88 posted on 10/05/2014 6:02:57 PM PDT by Delta Dawn (Fluent in two languages: English and cursive.)
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To: Delta Dawn
What action should Paterno have taken?

Gosh, I don't know, this is a hard question.

Let me see.

I guess he could wait a few years, rack up some championships, pull in a few million from donors and bask in the adoration of his winning! team (and those slobbering alumni).

I mean, he might give his boss a heads up, but only with a wink and a nod. Nah. Don't wanna bring a shadow on the team

He'd really like to do more, but who can think straight what with those noisy showers and the hooting of that pesky Sandusky fella. Wish he'd join a health club!

But he's really hoping those kids in the shower like the place enough to try out for the team in, oh, ten years or so.

Shame on you for defending him.

89 posted on 10/05/2014 6:03:36 PM PDT by IncPen (None of this would be happening if John Boehner were alive...)
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To: Delta Dawn

Yep, he certainly did ... the absolute minimum legally required of him.

After all, who cares about a few buggered boys when Penn State Football is at stake?


90 posted on 10/05/2014 6:04:40 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Delta Dawn

He did not go to the police, he went to the campus police. Is critical thought not customary for you?


91 posted on 10/05/2014 6:05:35 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: IncPen

You should quit now, you are embarrassing yourself. The weekend he was told by McQuerry of the incident, he informed the chief of the Penn State police department of what he had been told. This is documented, not heresay.


92 posted on 10/05/2014 6:06:07 PM PDT by Delta Dawn (Fluent in two languages: English and cursive.)
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To: DuncanWaring

Here we are, on a conservative website—receiving legal advice from ostensible conservatives on the minimum we should do in the case we receive a report of child molestation.


93 posted on 10/05/2014 6:07:18 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

Don’t get out much? The Campus police is a fully licensed and registered police department in the state of Pa. But you knew that...


94 posted on 10/05/2014 6:08:25 PM PDT by Delta Dawn (Fluent in two languages: English and cursive.)
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To: Delta Dawn
..By state law, Paterno was required to inform his superiors at the university...

Legal minimalism? Really? What Paterno should have done was to put public safety above everything else. Yet Paterno chose not to do that. And by choosing not to act, he accepted liability for any future assaults against the safety of the public.

What he should have done legally was to go straight to the District Attorney. And no, there is nothing "illegal" about going to the District Attorney.

95 posted on 10/05/2014 6:08:50 PM PDT by Hoodat (Article 4, Section 4)
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To: Delta Dawn

Penn State campus police. What’s their record with regard to child buggery cases? Much experience?


96 posted on 10/05/2014 6:08:58 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
So you don't care if, for example, some prominentoes at Penn State but NOT Paterno were engaged in the same actual misbehavior as Sandusky, meeting their victims through Sandusky's Second Mile Foundation? Just so long as Paterno, the only genuinely public figure outside of the Penn State community gets his for not reporting to public authorities or the inquisitive general public rumors which had been passed to him, especially where the university included in his and everyone else's employment contract that all such complaints be made ONLY to university administrators (Graham's, ummmm, boys). Got it.

Your posts are a lot more likely to reflect PSU "stuff" namely blame the dead guy and the rest of us get off! Other than Sandusky but, once he was indicted and a bunch of actual victims testified, Sandusky was headed for life in the hoosegow.

Paterno is dead and well beyond your reach or the jurisdiction of any earthly court. I want additional heads taken if ANYONE else is guilty. Why don't you?

97 posted on 10/05/2014 6:09:18 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club: Rack 'em Danno!)
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To: 1rudeboy

You tell me...You know everything...


98 posted on 10/05/2014 6:10:17 PM PDT by Delta Dawn (Fluent in two languages: English and cursive.)
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To: Delta Dawn

Heck, wasn’t one of the victims from out-of-state. That’s federal. We’re talking FBI, not some random campus mall cop.


99 posted on 10/05/2014 6:10:25 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Delta Dawn
No, I'll wait for you to tell me, since you're hanging your hat on the argument.
100 posted on 10/05/2014 6:11:24 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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