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Winning or Whining With Tea Party In 2014
The American Spectator ^ | 10-4-2014 | Keli Carender

Posted on 10/05/2014 9:08:17 AM PDT by Buckeye Battle Cry

"...Take note: Instead of working to get out the vote, educate voters, and advance Republican and conservative principles in key states, and fire up the base, the establishment has already thrown in the towel. They are trying to shape a narrative about why their candidates lost instead of making sure their candidates win. Their narrative is that tea partiers are… what were those words you used, David? Oh yes. Tea partiers are naïve, sophomoric, and stupid, and this trifecta of character flaws will cause us to behave like petulant children."

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Chit/Chat; Miscellaneous; Society
KEYWORDS: g42; hypocrites; loserrinos; rinos; rinos4obama; rinosvsamerica; teaparty; whining; whiningrinos
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To: GeronL
I’m starting to think the Dems might increase their Senate majority this year, the GOPe seems to be trying to lose this election.
Yep. It will take *FAR* more effort to lose this time, than the effort it would take to win. It boggles my mind that the GOPe is trying to prep the political environment for a *loss*.

If the political right (GOPe, Conservative, what have you) can not regain a significant majority in both house of congress this election season, as ripe as the opportunity is, then they have no standing to blame the voters for their laughably piss-poor performance.

21 posted on 10/05/2014 11:10:22 AM PDT by jaydee770
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To: centurion316

Four words for you and all GOPe sisterhood should be hearing a lot: “Payback is a bitch”


22 posted on 10/05/2014 11:20:41 AM PDT by slapshot
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To: jaydee770

One of the disadvantages of a two party system is that the path to power requires that you forge alliances with people who do not share every element of your political philosophy. Democrats hate each other, but manage to band together to win political power.

Most folks here demand that we purge the impure and that through some miracle, our 30% block of true conservatives go out there and win national elections. I don’t see that happening.


23 posted on 10/05/2014 11:25:35 AM PDT by centurion316
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To: slapshot

The Democrats are loving what you are saying.


24 posted on 10/05/2014 11:26:30 AM PDT by centurion316
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To: centurion316

Well it appears, after GOPe told 33% of the electorate to pound sand, maybe they should enlist assistance from “their friends across the aisle” to make up the difference. Brilliant strategy. The GOPe is Fredo to Conservative’s Michael Corleone. “you broke my hear Fredo”


25 posted on 10/05/2014 11:54:06 AM PDT by slapshot
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To: GeronL
I have yet to see any coherent campaign message or theme from the GOPE this year, except their war on conservatives

…sounds like a message to me: we aren't conservative; furthermore, conservatives aren't welcome in these parts!

26 posted on 10/05/2014 11:58:49 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: centurion316
"Most folks here demand that we purge the impure"
Disagree. While it is true that *some* folks here demand a purer conservative candidate, *most* folks here simply want a candidate to give them a reason to vote for them.

Merely claiming to be a republican isn't sufficient. Similarly, taking the stance that I *owe* a candidate my vote is insulting. Votes are earned and quite frankly, the GOPe hasn't earned a single vote in quite awhile.

Earn my vote. Give me a reason to vote for you. I can be reasonable. I *want* to be reasonable. Right now, conservative candidates are working damned hard to earn votes. They are articulating problems and solutions and why it is in our nation's best interest to vote for them.

And similar to your point, what are the GOPe candidates doing, other than threatening, "Vote for me or the Dem wins!"

And yes, sometimes compromising in the legislative process is understandable in the overall furtherance of conservative goals. However, chronic capitulation to, or flat out agreement with, the liberal agenda towards the nation's detriment is confounding and not at all worthy of my support, much less my vote.

So apologies, but you may want to consider that you may be as tone-deaf as the GOPe. For me, it's not a matter of conservative purity with the GOPe - I've yet to see any candidate (including Reagan) who would pass a 100% conservative purity test. It's a desire for a given candidate to differentiate themselves in a way that prompts me to cast my vote for them. For now, the conservative candidates are *easily* earning my vote. The GOPe apparently can't be bothered to try.

27 posted on 10/05/2014 12:04:54 PM PDT by jaydee770
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To: OneWingedShark

some strategy!


28 posted on 10/05/2014 12:10:08 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: jaydee770

Most was probably the wrong word. Most vocal would have been a more accurate term.

Since I only trust politicians about as far as I can throw them and few have missed any meals, I don’t put them through a popularity contest to earn my vote. I believe that the exercise of political power will cause them to change their behavior regardless of what they think. They are all opportunist little worms and will wake up one morning with a certain devotion to the conservative cause when we make them do so.

They read tea leaves. They pay people to read tea leaves for them. They consult psychics, toss chicken bones, and every once in while they even go back to their districts. When they see conservatives winning, when they see liberals losing, when they see voters express disapproval, they modify their behavior. Voting for Democrats or staying at home has the opposite effect, so I don’t do it.


29 posted on 10/05/2014 12:16:46 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: jaydee770

“blame the voters” is always a cop-out loser move


30 posted on 10/05/2014 12:21:06 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: jaydee770

The “pure” candidates are the ones being purged by the GOPe


31 posted on 10/05/2014 12:21:54 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: tennmountainman

exactly


32 posted on 10/05/2014 12:22:54 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: centurion316

I wouldn’t vote for a Democrat... of either party


33 posted on 10/05/2014 12:23:14 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: GeronL

I understand what you are saying, but politicians don’t. Their minders are telling them that they are losing votes because they are not behaving more like Democrats, so they draw exactly the wrong conclusion from your actions.


34 posted on 10/05/2014 12:26:43 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: GeronL
“blame the voters” is always a cop-out loser move
Yep. It's something you would expect your garden-variety, average self-obsessed, narcissist demoncrat to do. Seek to deflect blame for their own failures.
35 posted on 10/05/2014 12:43:02 PM PDT by jaydee770
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To: centurion316

I’ve added plenty to this thread. Look who posted it.

All you’ve done is come on here with your one-note samba singing about supporting Harry Reid. You have a tin ear. READ the article. READ the comments. Respond to them. Give us a coherent message regarding the GOPe this year other than they suck less than the dems. You have been flailing on that here on FR for weeks.

WHY should we take it anymore? Wipe off your chin. Karl Rove is smiling because of you.


36 posted on 10/05/2014 1:30:01 PM PDT by Buckeye Battle Cry (Hey Obama! Wake up and piss! The World's on FIRE!)
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To: Buckeye Battle Cry

As I said, the article does a better job of explaining why conservatives are hoping for a Democrat victory than anything that I have read by any of the FR Harry Reid Fan Club, and certainly better than anything I could come up with. None of it makes any sense to me. I have one vote and I will always exercise it and I will never vote for a Democrat.

All of you political geniuses can rationalize why you think doing something different will work for conservatives. I don’t think that you have an answer except to assuage the anger and rage expressed in the article.


37 posted on 10/05/2014 1:38:46 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: centurion316

Centurion, you say “I understand what you are saying, but politicians don’t. Their minders are telling them that they are losing votes because they are not behaving more like Democrats, so they draw exactly the wrong conclusion from your actions.”

Then WHY are you constantly on FR tell us the same thing? WHY aren’t you focusing your efforts on the GOPe to enlighten them that they are getting the wrong message? That is what the rest of us have been doing. In return, we get called racists. We get threatened. We see the establishment race bait, lie and change the rules all in an effort to avoid the obvious and avoid the very fate you repeatedly lament.

If you truly believe what you have said, then TURN AROUND PASTOR. YOU’RE PREACHING TO THE CHOIR.

If you don’t believe what you have said, well I take comfort from the fact that I have yet to see you change any minds on this site.


38 posted on 10/05/2014 1:40:37 PM PDT by Buckeye Battle Cry (Hey Obama! Wake up and piss! The World's on FIRE!)
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To: Buckeye Battle Cry

I’m probably not going to change any minds. If any minds are changed in my direction, it will be by those reading the shouting and insults that you and your ilk are tossing about. I don’t believe that I have been threatening anyone, calling anyone racists, switching to all caps. That’s coming from elsewhere.

People who vote for or support Democrats are not in my choir. I don’t care why they are doing it.


39 posted on 10/05/2014 1:46:36 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: centurion316
All of you political geniuses can rationalize why you think doing something different will work for conservatives

So you do think Dole, McCain and Romney were doing it right?

lol

40 posted on 10/05/2014 1:48:03 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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