Posted on 09/12/2014 10:41:01 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda
Woman gets fired without pay after telling her boss she has cancer
Carol Jumper, of Hopewell Township, Pa., received a handwritten letter of her termination from her boss, Dr. George Visnich Jr., shortly after she was diagnosed with cancer. Her family and friends are outraged but the doctor's attorney claimed he did a 'humanitarian thing.'
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That is quite different than how NASA treated my late husband back in 1972/73 when he had Hodgkin’s Disease. His co-workers gave him their sick days so he would not have to worry about missed days. He had to have treatments for 4 months and his dr discovered the drugs were “eating” holes in his stomach and he was bleeding internally. He never had any trouble after that until 2006 when he had liver cancer. We discovered the drugs from HD may have caused the LC. He died 3 months later. Look up AZ Technology which is the company he started in our basement.
Every business owner I have ever met has had one thing in mind when it comes to their business. Which is the bottom line. If the woman can no longer do the job, the employer should not have to pay for the employee to under perform while his patients and other employees watch her slowly die.
There’s more to this story than what we know. I guarantee it.
Stage 4 terminal cancer, or a high frequency chemotherapy treatment combined with a cabinet full of schedule 2 medications. I don’t know about you, but I don’t want anyone going through that to be poking around in my mouth.
You don’t get UI for “years” unless there’s a federal extension like during the great recession. You get it for months. And it’s only meant to tide you over until you find another job. Social Security disability takes forever to get, she’ll probably pass away before she hears anything.
To-may-to, to-mah-to. She lost her job due to no fault of her own.
I meant the myriad of indolent layabouts that have been abusing the system over the years.
wrong.
high level people that have sucked have been “let go” and been paid off to leave the company. they buy out the remainder of their contract b/c they were guaranteed x over x years and that was protected in the contract.
there are people that are downsized out (fired, terminated, free to pursue other career interests at other companies) for various reasons, and are offered buyouts, severance packages based on length of service.
i know most people think fired is a term for a problem employee being let go, as opposed to one that is downsized out but not for negative reasons, and there may be different protocols for their departure, but from the worker’s point of view, fired or reduction in force casualty, both mean you’re not working there anymore.
I didn’t say anything about your credibility. I also said you were right by pointing out the law. I didn’t think cancer would fall under disability. But someone with a compromised immune system should not be working in a medical field.
Street cred? This isn’t the hood, or a ghetto. I trust everyone here until they prove otherwise.
did i ever argue an employer can’t fire an employee?
I DID NOT.
READ WHAT I WROTE. Don’t read into it what you are projecting that you think I said.
My comments are very specific and what you bring up has nothing to do with my comment.
I went through this with my mother somewhat recently incidentally. She lived 18 months post diagnosis and was collecting SSDI before she passed away. Her spouse continues to collect those benefits.
I know a doc who did something similar and over half of his remaining employees quickly found other jobs and left. He lost nearly half of his patient base worth many millions of dollars a year. Plus he got a reputation as a bad boss and bad publicity to boot. This doc is incredibly myopic to not see the damage this will do to his practice. There are usually ways of handling this such as assigning another job role like the front desk or the checkout desk or changing to temporary part time work.
Okay. many are, and many are people who needed it at the time. BTW, it’s paid for by the employers, not the workers, except in one Northeastern state where both pay in. Funny story: We had a guy come in and file for UI and after that I saw him because he was a military veteran which was my specialty for about half my time there. He had sold his insurance company (company, not agency) to a Swiss firm for billions of dollars and agreed to stay on as an employee/consultant for a year. Well, the year was up and here he was, filing for UI. He did it because he could, since he’d never been on UI before. I had access to his “quarters” (quarterly income) on my computer screen, of course. It would’ve made you cry.
Uh, okay. Well I just looked at the post you responded to and I have no idea where you are getting this from.
I never said anything about him not being able to not fire her. She wasn’t fired, she was laid off. Must have responded to the wrong post.
I would take my comment out of the contracts discussion. I have no experience there.
But in Texas and Alaska, our HR departments had me treat fired very differently than laid off. Fired was right now, no severance. Laid off was with pay or early warning, etc.
Bid difference for collecting unemployment, as I understand it.
http://jobsearch.about.com/od/firedtermination/qt/fired-laid-off.htm
I have fired many with pay....from two weeks to a month severance
Yep.
More severance for a valued employee simply being laid off
my point was to read my original post because you responded to me with junk i never brought up.
i was strictly commenting on his “humane” solution for her and how he went about doing it.
No but most small businesses have a heart about it
Big anonmymous outfits likely not
Is anybody ever fired WITH pay?”
Only if you are a government employee or in a favorable position with a teacher’s union. Actually seems like they are not ever truly fired, just put on administrative leave with full pay pending further investigation.
Most bosses don’t have a very “humane” approach when it comes to letting people go. Who knows what parts of the story are missing, or not told.
I guess my work has been more direct. If someone was working with us, we needed the work completed on schedule. People got laid off when we got slow.
To get fired, it took some real effort (screw-up), typically after multiple written warnings. If they continued to break the rules, or did something bad enough to warrant immediate expulsion, we didn’t send them out with additional pay beyond what the worked.
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