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Fracking or drinking water: Must we choose?
cnbc ^ | 9-12-2014

Posted on 09/12/2014 10:13:03 AM PDT by Citizen Zed

Fracking for oil and natural gas—or having enough water to drink.

That's the possible dilemma facing a number of countries including the United States, according to a new report released by the World Resources Institute last week—though experts disagree on the real implications of the report and what should be done about it.

Forty percent of countries with shale-rich deposits—the types where hydraulic fracturing or "fracking" is used to extract natural gas and oil—face water scarcity in and around the shale deposits, according to the WRI report.

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21 posted on 09/12/2014 10:50:14 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer.)
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I never said fracking was new and dangerous. I am not pretending. I am telling you how it is when they are fracking near your house. We had community meetings and meetings with the State Police. I raised my kids in this house that I now have for sale because of the constant noise,speeding trucks,road dirt,etc. The truck drivers,getting paid by the mile HAVE created a dangerous situation. Maybe it will come your way and you can enjoy it as much as we have.
22 posted on 09/12/2014 10:52:43 AM PDT by 4yearlurker (Some people say that experts agree!!)
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To: 4yearlurker
I raised my kids in this house that I now have for sale because of the constant noise,speeding trucks,road dirt,etc.

Yeah, it is really bad when jobs and prosperity come to a sleepy little town.

23 posted on 09/12/2014 10:53:57 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer.)
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To: thackney
From that statement i will assume there is no fracking near your home.
24 posted on 09/12/2014 10:55:21 AM PDT by 4yearlurker (Some people say that experts agree!!)
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To: Citizen Zed

Fracking causes well contaminate is just a red herring. The real argument is about whether humans should be allowed to exist via exploitation of natural resources.

1. If fracking were to entirely cease today there would be no additional freshwater available to these people. The enviros want us to have neither oil/gas or water. California is the perfect example were the enviers are driving people out by drying the state up by creating an artificial scarcity of water.

2. Oil and water are commingled naturally in many areas. In the Akron area I have friends who tell of water naturally contaminated by oil.
the situations is remedied by lowering (i.e. pumping) oil out of the ground. Ditto many areas around the Gulf.

3. Drilling and pumping ground water is just as evil (in the enviro wackos eyes) as drilling and pumping for oil/gas. Both are done to support humans which need to ne scourged from the Earth.


25 posted on 09/12/2014 10:56:43 AM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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To: 4yearlurker

A couple miles from my home. Closer to other family members (different state). No wells yet on the property we have leased but we are hopeful.

Millions of wells have been hydraulicly fractured in this country. Like all industrial processes there are risks and occasional mistakes. But I take it you still want the gasoline for your car and natural gas for electricity and heat?


26 posted on 09/12/2014 11:00:41 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer.)
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Was the “water scarcity” around the shale deposits a fact before the evil fracking started? Not a geologist, but isn’t that sort of normal around shale deposits?

If there are chemicals in the waste water, bet the thermal depolymerization folks could fix that, and bring some benefit to the process.

“...so fracking thirsty...”

KYPD


27 posted on 09/12/2014 11:04:56 AM PDT by petro45acp (It's a fabian thing.....how do you boil a frog? How's that water feelin right about now?)
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To: 4yearlurker

It sounds like you have a “traffic” problem not a “fracking” problem. When we bought this house 30 years ago, it was on a dead end street. Then they built a bridge over the bayou and now we live on a race track.

S*** happens! Great house, great yard, we aren’t moving.


28 posted on 09/12/2014 11:07:02 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: thackney
Had all that before we were invaded. It's not just me,it's the community. Folks have signs in their front yards "Slow down! Children live here!" Once again everything I am saying is from my experiences with the process. The people that work and are associated with the wells do not live here and therefore don't give a sh!t. Just like you. I am done talking about the joys of fracking.
29 posted on 09/12/2014 11:07:16 AM PDT by 4yearlurker (Some people say that experts agree!!)
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But it is hard to scare other people talking about traffic. Fracking sounds so much more evil.


30 posted on 09/12/2014 11:09:37 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer.)
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To: Ditter

Good for you!


31 posted on 09/12/2014 11:12:03 AM PDT by 4yearlurker (Some people say that experts agree!!)
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To: thackney

Or they are contaminated when the fracking water leaks out of a truck or a holding pond. Very rarely is it a direct result of the fracking.


32 posted on 09/12/2014 11:12:26 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: 4yearlurker

Wouldn’t the cops/sheriff writing a few tickets do something to slow the truckers down?


33 posted on 09/12/2014 11:12:30 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Ditter

I wish. We have no local police force. Only State Troopers. The truckers seem to know this.


34 posted on 09/12/2014 11:17:16 AM PDT by 4yearlurker (Some people say that experts agree!!)
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To: thackney
Not only would you be overjoyed, but you'd be wealthier too!
35 posted on 09/12/2014 11:17:36 AM PDT by Renkluaf
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Very rarely is it a direct result of the fracking.

Very rarely as in never shown to be the case.

Bad cement jobs, yeah that happens. But if the well is hydrofac'd or not, that is still a problem.

36 posted on 09/12/2014 11:18:21 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer.)
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To: Renkluaf

hence my joy...


37 posted on 09/12/2014 11:18:44 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Some small streams have been hit with saline water from holding ponds. DEP fines the gas company.
38 posted on 09/12/2014 11:18:47 AM PDT by 4yearlurker (Some people say that experts agree!!)
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To: 4yearlurker

State troopers can write traffic tickets, can’t they? Did you ask them to?

Before you sell a house that you love, the traffic will thin out after the wells are producing (or not producing at all)..


39 posted on 09/12/2014 11:30:55 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Ditter

As I stated in previous posts on this thread we had meetings with some State Troopers and they did sit along the roads here and there. Most of the truckers are from out of state and are here for the money while the money is here. Nothing wrong with that. I am just stating what I have experienced as a result of a fracking well about 1 1/2 miles from my house. I am not against fracking or prosperity. Just telling the truth from what I have witnessed. It was very,very bad in June. Lot’s of reckless truckers.


40 posted on 09/12/2014 11:42:08 AM PDT by 4yearlurker (Some people say that experts agree!!)
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