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To: varina davis
I disagree that the Confederacy was a “failed state.” there was never a recorded formal surrender of the Confederate States of America. And no symbols and flags would have endured this long unless they symbolized enduring beliefs.

The Confederate States of America ceased to exist as a country shortly after the surrender at Appomattox. Its military forces were disbanded and/or interned, the members of its government were arrested, and its territory was occupied for several years afterwards. The lack of a "formal surrender" is thus moot.

That its symbols and flags are still occasionally used to adorn bumperstickers and such is as little evidence of the continuation of the C.S.A. as the frequent sighting of Nazi symbols in graffiti, etc. is proof of the continued existence of Nazi Germany.

As for the beliefs those symbols actually symbolize: I'm sure that there are almost as many different opinions on that as there are people who display them.

Regards,

52 posted on 09/10/2014 7:36:07 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: alexander_busek

“its territory was occupied for several years afterwards.”

It’s true the CSA was occupied following it’s dwindling efforts to defeat northern aggression. But the “several years” is dead wrong. Starting with Reconstruction, the occupation is still going strong and Southern values about the rights of states as set forth in the constitution are still foremost in the hearts of those born in the South and those who wish they had been.


55 posted on 09/10/2014 9:28:24 AM PDT by varina davis (Gov. Rick Perry in 2016)
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To: alexander_busek

“The Confederate States of America ceased to exist as a country”

Abe Lincoln claimed that the CSA never was a country.

Lincoln declared it to be nothing more than an insurrection and he called up 75,000 troops to put it down while Congress was out of session.

Just as King George III declared the American colonials to be a rebellion and not a new country.


56 posted on 09/10/2014 10:11:05 AM PDT by Pelham (California, what happens when you won't deport illegals)
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