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"If you consider Katy “I kissed a girl” Perry and Lady “will do anything for attention” Gaga Rock and Roll then I guess they made it."

You completely missed the point, but I'll try again...

Somehow, the two examples I cited are making money despite the era of file sharing. So what is Gene Simmons whining about?

[BBell]

I understood your point. I was just saying I consider neither Gaga or Perry rock.

Several of the post here have explained the new era of rock. Give the music away for free then pack em in at over priced concerts. When I was young groups would tour to promote their new albums and the concerts were not nearly as expensive as they are now. Concert tour shirts used to be big money. When was the last time you saw someone walking around with a concert shirt on that wasn't retro?

BTW, my first concert was in 1980. Blue oyster Cult and Fog Hat. $8.50.

[ClearCase_guy]

So what is Gene Simmons whining about?

I think his point is that the music biz isn't much about music.

I would say the same about the News Biz -- it's not about News.

Katy Perry, Gaga, Bieber and others make money. But do they make music? They make sound that sells. They dance. They have interesting clothing. Kids who want to be cool send them money.

30 years from now is Justin Bieber going to be a great rock icon like David Bowie, Jagger, Elvis, Peter Gabriel?

Don't think so. Because he doesn't make music. He just makes money.