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To: EBH
Specifically, which optics am I trying to paint?

We aren't disagreeing on the statistics, nor on the breed's history, nor new found street appeal and we are 100% in agreement about over-breeding, especially by uninformed and/or malicious backyard breeders, puppy mills, etc.

The absolutely worst thing that can happen to a breed, any breed, any species, but especially so for dogs, is pop culture popularity.

The movie !01 Dalmatians screwed up dalmatians, the Lady and the Tramp for cocker spaniels, Lassie for collies, Cujo, etc., etc.

Even the Nija Turtle movies have a detrimental effect with kids wanting a turtle for up to 1-3 months after getting at turtle, then needing to get rid of it.

Of all the breeds, pits got the worst of this curse and I admit to having formed an opinion similar to yours, at least until I saw the show that Cesar Millan did.

Now I see the issue somewhat differently and there's something familiar about what I think I see. I couldn't see it from where I had been standing. I think it means something. I'm not explaining it very well and I regret that.

Anywho...forget I said anything. There's something I see/sense, got a glimpse of, whatever. Probably just me and I'm not trying to change your opinion and I can't change your facts. My intent is to be a good observer/data taker/wannbe scientist while regarding what is before me.

Besides, from what I've read, insurance company actuaries know how to figure the odds when they take a bet and I tend to go with the pros if/when available.

42 posted on 09/02/2014 4:02:13 PM PDT by GBA (Here in the Matrix, life is but a dream.)
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To: GBA

I disagree with the optics you are using.

Guns are guns and they don’t go off randomly, somebody has to pull the trigger.

If the dog equates to a gun in your optics, then the owner pulls the trigger...not some random encounter at a pet adoption event that has the pitty pulling out of his collar to go after a westie.

A gun will just lay there...

Sadly, due to breeding a pitty won’t. Romanticizing the breed of yesteryear doesn’t help. And it sounds like that is what you took away from C. Millan. You may be correct in that what you are trying to say isn’t coming across very well.


43 posted on 09/02/2014 4:54:41 PM PDT by EBH (And the angel poured out his cup...)
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