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A theological question about the afterlife

Posted on 08/26/2014 1:00:53 PM PDT by MNDude

I'm wondering if anyone here is Muslim, or is greatly knowledgeable about the Muslim religion. My one question is...What is the story of the 72 virgins waiting for Muslim martyrs?

Were they humans that lived on earth and died or were they created just for the Muslim martyrs? Do they have any life outside being virgins waiting for martyrs? What awaits female Muslim martyrs in the afterlife? 72 male martyrs?

Once a virgin has slept with a martyr, do they go on to a productive afterlife, or do they cease to exist?

Also, why virgins? I guess no one wants to be with someone that's slept with every guy on the block, but certified virgins seems kind of weird too--especially if the intent is to treat them all like a piece of meat and then move on to the next virgin.

If you were a sultan or someone like Hugh Hefner, won't you be moving down going to 72 virgins?

Also, why 72? Isn't that a rather small number for eternity? I mean, one a year and the martyr is through in 72 years, then a thousand years later he'll be looking on enviously at the guy that went with one only every 200 hundred years.

Please answer these questions if you are Islam or know a lot about Islam.


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To: C. Edmund Wright

I wonder if ripping out women’s genitals is to prevent Muslim men from being insulted at how bored and/or repulsed women are by their complete lack of sexual prowess?


21 posted on 08/26/2014 1:20:18 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: b4its2late

Oh no Man,
That is just eternal Brewers droop. LOL. Medic ,EyeBath!


22 posted on 08/26/2014 1:20:31 PM PDT by moose07 (the truth will out ,one day. Doggies Rock.)
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To: MNDude

Too much delving into any religious dogma appears to create some real logic problems.

The more sane religions choose carefully which self-conflicting elements they choose to ignore.

However, with Islam, it’s “turtles all the way down”.


23 posted on 08/26/2014 1:21:15 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Olog-hai
Look up “houris”.

I swear by my grandfathers beard, that was exactly the same answer I thought of when I saw the title of the article.
24 posted on 08/26/2014 1:22:11 PM PDT by wbarmy (I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
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To: MNDude
This is where one can see the hand of Satan in Islam.

Make sure, by religious design, that muslim men are deeply frustrated sexually in this life by hiding the women behind burqas and then have them sold off to wealthy old men...and then promise them unlimited sex in the afterlife if they die by killing Christians and Jews and other infidels.

25 posted on 08/26/2014 1:23:52 PM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: MNDude

Its a myth, all of it.


26 posted on 08/26/2014 1:25:17 PM PDT by Elsiejay
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To: MNDude

I have never wondered about this


27 posted on 08/26/2014 1:27:01 PM PDT by dontreadthis
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To: moose07

;-)


28 posted on 08/26/2014 1:28:08 PM PDT by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: MNDude

Any muzzy actually believing this garbage is a moron and thinks Science is a disease to be avoided.


30 posted on 08/26/2014 1:35:24 PM PDT by soycd
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To: MNDude
It was Mohammed's way to get young men to fight for him.

31 posted on 08/26/2014 1:37:33 PM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN; All
"Muslims are profoundly stupid."

Unless known physical issues, I don't regard anybody as stupid, just misinformed. Or in worse case brainwashed.

34 posted on 08/26/2014 1:39:44 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: miss marmelstein

Interesting theory, but I assure you I have noooooooo idea…..


35 posted on 08/26/2014 1:39:48 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (www.FireKarlRove.com NOW)
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To: MNDude

I know a bit. Not much, but I’ve worked with them a lot and we’ve talked, so a bit. Make sure to double check.

72 is a mystical number for them. I don’t know why, except possibly it is part of the base 12 counting system. Muslims tend to work to base 12 if they can, just like Chinese always work in odd numbers.

Virgins represent purity, which is blessed and to be protected. They do revere the idea of purity massively - as I said in another thread, Our Lady Madonna is the only woman mentioned in the Qu’ran and she is mentioned many times.

We got into an argument once about the nature of the virgins. Are they women? Are they Djinn? It was a lively debate, but we had no Imam to give the answer.


36 posted on 08/26/2014 1:40:21 PM PDT by EC1
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To: Amendment10
I don't regard anybody as stupid, just misinformed. Or in worse case brainwashed.

Oh I do. And besides, the three concepts are not mutually exclusive….

37 posted on 08/26/2014 1:41:18 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (www.FireKarlRove.com NOW)
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To: Olog-hai
Abu Umama narrated: "The Messenger of Allah* said, 'Everyone that God admits into paradise will be married to 72 wives; two of them are houris and seventy of his inheritance of the [female] dwellers of hell. All of them will have libidinous sex organs and he will have an ever-erect penis.' "

http://wikiislam.net/wiki/72_Virgins

Not only 72 virgins but "Ever-Erect Penis"!!!

Islam, it's all about the penis!

38 posted on 08/26/2014 1:41:19 PM PDT by dragonblustar ( Psalm 103, Psalm 37:7, Ephesians 6:12)
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To: F15Eagle
Only takes a reading of that Bible they hate so much to reveal that (1 John 2:22).
Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. …
Compare the Koran’s Surah 17:111, 19:88, 23:91 and others.
39 posted on 08/26/2014 1:41:44 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: The_Reader_David

Thank you very much for that piece of history. My studies are in comparative religions and in my current duties, I spend a lot of time discussing the Muslim religion. I knew about the houris and the “white grapes” explanation. But I never thought about the different legends in terms of Syriac versus Arabic. Thank you very much.


40 posted on 08/26/2014 1:42:00 PM PDT by wbarmy (I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
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