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To: Veto!
You don't think the shot killed her?

My friend's beautiful daughter went bowling with her boyfriend, pulled a muscle, Mom took her to the doctor and got a shot of some painkiller. Girl died from it within 24 hours. Mom won a product liability case but could never stand to spend a cent of it.

Friend is now dead and gone, and I don't remember what the painkiller was…doubt it's on the market any more, as there were other cases.

Point is, pharmaceutical drugs do kill people. In fact, legal drugs kill more people than illegal drugs do. Of course, they are misused in most cases. But something like Provigil can be as addictive as cocaine.

No, it is highly unlikely that the vaccine had anything to do with her death, and far more likely that whatever was giving her a sore throat killed her.

Certainly, a drug (like a painkiller) that targets or blocks a signaling or metabolic pathway can have some very serious side effects due to consequences of the pathway being blocked, effects of non-target pathways being impacted, and the effects on the liver and kidneys which must remove the drug from the body.

A vaccine, however, is not a drug with pharmaceutical action. There are different kinds of vaccines, but what they all have in common is that they contain a pathogen or part of a pathogen that cannot cause an infection. When the body sees the piece of pathogen, the immune system responds just like it would to the real living pathogen. Since the immune system has a memory, it remembers that piece of pathogen so that if the real thing comes along later, the body recognizes and kills it before it has a chance to cause illness.

There is a world of difference between a vaccine containing a bit of protein and a drug designed, for example, to block nerve signaling.

In general, I do not advocate putting foreign substances of any type into one's body without a compelling medical reason to do so, but I do advocate the use of vaccines to prevent diseases. Vaccines don't expose the body to anything that it can't be exposed to through natural means.

57 posted on 08/09/2014 11:20:40 PM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: exDemMom
It occurs to me that what you keep doing on this thread is tossing out the "sex card" - much like liberals use the race card. That is, when libs can't stand someone disagreeing with them, they'll say "you're a racist" in order to shut them down and dismiss anything further they have to say. You call people mysogynists and terrorists and "anti-vaccinators", accuse them of disregard for their child's health, claim they want to punish their daugthers for sex, fear-monger with all the "consequences" of forgoing this vaccine (without, incidentally, addressing a single one of the very real controversies about it) and on and on. ALL without a single shred of evidence. You actually think that Merck or a pediatrician or YOU have more concern from my daughters' health than I do?! Take a hike.

Given the history of this vaccine, if you, with true intellectual honesty, cannot understand WHY parents have concerns and questions, I don't know what else to say to you. You either profit from forceful marketing of this drug or you are "less ex Dem" than your name implies and you like the control aspect.

88 posted on 08/10/2014 1:48:53 PM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is PUBLIC ENEMY #1)
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