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To: exDemMom
It occurs to me that what you keep doing on this thread is tossing out the "sex card" - much like liberals use the race card. That is, when libs can't stand someone disagreeing with them, they'll say "you're a racist" in order to shut them down and dismiss anything further they have to say. You call people mysogynists and terrorists and "anti-vaccinators", accuse them of disregard for their child's health, claim they want to punish their daugthers for sex, fear-monger with all the "consequences" of forgoing this vaccine (without, incidentally, addressing a single one of the very real controversies about it) and on and on. ALL without a single shred of evidence. You actually think that Merck or a pediatrician or YOU have more concern from my daughters' health than I do?! Take a hike.

Given the history of this vaccine, if you, with true intellectual honesty, cannot understand WHY parents have concerns and questions, I don't know what else to say to you. You either profit from forceful marketing of this drug or you are "less ex Dem" than your name implies and you like the control aspect.

88 posted on 08/10/2014 1:48:53 PM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is PUBLIC ENEMY #1)
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To: workerbee

Well said.


89 posted on 08/10/2014 1:54:27 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: workerbee
It occurs to me that what you keep doing on this thread is tossing out the "sex card" - much like liberals use the race card. That is, when libs can't stand someone disagreeing with them, they'll say "you're a racist" in order to shut them down and dismiss anything further they have to say. You call people mysogynists and terrorists and "anti-vaccinators", accuse them of disregard for their child's health, claim they want to punish their daugthers for sex, fear-monger with all the "consequences" of forgoing this vaccine (without, incidentally, addressing a single one of the very real controversies about it) and on and on. ALL without a single shred of evidence. You actually think that Merck or a pediatrician or YOU have more concern from my daughters' health than I do?! Take a hike.

I am more concerned with health outcomes than I am about how a person gets a disease. Since the majority of people posting here against the vaccine rationalize refusing to vaccinate their daughters on the basis that any woman who gets HPV related cancerous conditions deserves it--well, it's hard to interpret that as something other than misogyny.

The fact is that Merck, your pediatrician, and I all know and understand far more about this vaccine than you do. And the information about it that you find at the CDC is way more accurate than anything you'll find on an anti-vax site.

Given the history of this vaccine, if you, with true intellectual honesty, cannot understand WHY parents have concerns and questions, I don't know what else to say to you. You either profit from forceful marketing of this drug or you are "less ex Dem" than your name implies and you like the control aspect.

I try to dispel myths. I provide accurate information that parents can use to make an *informed* decision. The fact is that 75% of all people get some sort of HPV infection. The fact is that those HPV viruses sometimes insert their DNA into a chromosome, so that the virus becomes a permanent part of the infected tissues. The fact is that, depending on where the virus inserts itself in the host DNA, it can start an oncogenic process that leads to dysplasia and sometimes to cancer. The fact is that this vaccine was tested for years before its inventors collected sufficient data demonstrating its safety and efficacy to satisfy the FDA requirements, and they are still collecting data because the FDA requires it. The fact is that the moment this vaccine was approved, anti-vaxxers jumped all over it and started a disinformation campaign that continues to this day.

BTW, the stock accusation of all anti-vaxxers that anyone presenting accurate scientific information must be profiting from doing so is beyond stupid. If I were concerned about profit, I'd do everything I could to discourage vaccine use. There is a lot more profit in people getting sick and needing hospitalization, drugs, IV fluids, nursing care, etc., than there is in them staying well. According to the insurance company Aetna, it costs over $1,700 to stay one night in the hospital--you'd have to give 14 HPV vaccine series to get that much profit.

121 posted on 08/11/2014 8:11:54 PM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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