Posted on 07/28/2014 10:38:02 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
THE parents of a boy aged four were horrified when a “mark of the Devil” appeared on his chest.
Sharon Lewis and Robby Jones spotted the cross-hair imprint as they got son Samuel ready for bed.
The sinister sign is proving a devil to explain. The imprint has baffled his parents, teachers and even the family's GP.
Shocked Sharon, 37, of Market Drayton, Shrops, said yesterday: “It’s a nightmare. Some people have said it’s the Symbol of Mammon — the sign of the Devil’s first born — which has been very upsetting.
(Excerpt) Read more at malaysia-chronicle.com ...
Actually, I said it was probably an imprint from a toy. I went on to say that, if it did have some non-mundane origin, it could just as easily *be* the Celtic cross. There’s nothing to exclude that explanation, other than the (apparent) word of “some other people”, who in this case (being from the UK) probably have far more exposure to the movie that symbol came from (Constantine) that to actual Christianity.
Early mentions of Mammon appear to stem from the personification in the Gospels, e.g., Didascalia, "Do solo Mammona cogitant, quorum Deus est sacculus"; and Saint Augustine, "Lucrum Punice Mammon dicitur" (Serm. on Mt., ii). Gregory of Nyssa also asserted that Mammon was another name for Beelzebub. In the Bible, Mammon is personified in Luke 16:13, and Matthew 6:24, the latter verse repeating Luke 16:13. In the Greek, Luke 16:9, and Luke 16:11 also personify Mammon.
it could just as easily *be* the symbol of Mammon
I’ll also venture then that Gregory of Nyssa may have been a saint, but was also wrong, or misquoted. You seem to be quoting from wikipedia.
Here it is from Saint Matthew: “Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal: But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal: For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also. No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.”
Mammon is cognate to the English word money. Some people, even today, make money their false god. But it doesn’t make money bad or good; it’s just money. How the person gets it, or spends it, makes that person bad or good.
If this troubled woman believes the mark has a demonic origin, I agree, she should be in contact with her church. Or, if she doesn’t have one, she can be in contact with the office of exorcism in either the Anglican or Catholic Church in her area.
This is a story from a Malaysian news source, oddly. I’d think a more understandable mark of mammon in England would be a capital L in script with a line through it, rather than something that looks like many Christian crosses even in the un-Celtic country of England.
I am waiting for Little Pig to come along and chide you for knowing more than a Saint... any moment now.
Or, if it is simply misquoted, you could correct Wikipedia.
Either way, the symbol of Mommon could have been inspired by a demon... your failure to see the forest for the trees doesn’t change that one iota.
This article is actually from the UK...
Boy, age 4, has mark of the DEVIL on his chest
malaysia-chronicle ^ | 29 July 2014 | Thesun.co.uk
Why is it so important to you that this be of demonic origin? And not even biblically-sound demonic, but ersatz, 19th-century occultist “demonic”?
BTW, this article is also on DRUDGE REPORT.
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Whatever that was supposed to mean - LoL!
Actually went to see “Mark of the Devil” back in the early 70’s. Still wish I had the vomit bag they gave out as a promotional gimmick.
Saints are human, and not infallible. If this saint indeed equated money with the lord of the flies, and was being literal about it, he was wrong. It’s referred to, but not quoted. I can read plain English, which, for what it’s worth, is knowing more than this particular saint.
Are you missing the trees for the forest, then?
I see someone up the thread pointed out that its original UK source is not even as reliable a piece of paper as the local fishwrap, just sensationalism. How close to its page 3 topless woman was this story?
Again, if this mother believes it is a demonic mark, she can call on the Catholic Church’s office of exorcism, and begin praying. The internet doesn’t seem to be helping her.
Here is a little quiz:
Who would be interested in pushing people to worship money as a god?
A) Mary, Mother of Jesus
B) Saint Peter
C) Mommon (another name for Beelzebub)
I am glad we agree better safe than sorry and they should at least contact the Church.
Did anyone in the theater even use it?
I would be apprehensive about going into the theater because of that. I absolutely cannot be in close proximity to someone who is vomiting.
I think we should end this argument before you’re led to do worse than argue from false premises, like that mammon, or a foreign word that in English can be represented by the word money or wealth, is a ‘who’; or before you appear to be supporting your argument by repeating your argument, rather than addressing a challenge to your argument, namely that the assertion about Gregory of Nyssa’s statement lacks the quote relating money to the lord of the flies.
She should seek competent spiritual help, rather than rely on internet demonologists. Perhaps when this boy is older he will get the tattoo of a Celtic cross right where this mark appeared, and then show it to his mother, and they’ll both laugh about it.
No, it was pretty gruesome in spots, especially for its day. I’m sure there’s a lot worse movies out there now, but at the time it was the thing to go see.
We went it thinking it would be a goof, kind of like the William Castle movies of the 50’s & 60’s, but it wasn’t really any fun at all.
Good day to you sir... with your arrogant stuck-in-mud unsupported failed logic.
“logic”
Thank you for not wasting even more of my time.
There it is.
as matters what people call Satan from one country to the next... one room to the next...LoL!
As if it matters...
Stupid superstition.
I am wondering if the mother of the child has the mark of 15 Minutes of Fame.
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