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Microsoft decided to extort Windows 7 users too
semiaccurate.com ^ | Jul 14, 2014 | by Charlie Demerjian

Posted on 07/17/2014 9:17:00 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

Not content to blow both feet off with a shotgun, Microsoft is going for the kneecaps now by blackmailing it’s customers. If you are still dumb enough to use Windows, you are about have your wallet shaken down by Microsoft in a familiar yet still unwelcome way.We don’t feel the need to sugarcoat this much because the company’s behavior is so blatant and uncaring it is almost staggering. Worse yet the victims, that would be almost all Windows users, have only themselves to blame because the pattern has been well laid out for years now. Microsoft has been unapologetically blackmailing users for years, anyone who bought one of their products in the last few years should have known better.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: microsoft; windows7
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To: Varmint Al

Thanks, I will check it out.


61 posted on 07/18/2014 2:06:19 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Carbonsteel

Never heard of it, I’ll look into it.


62 posted on 07/18/2014 2:07:05 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: catnipman; SkyDancer
It’s impossible for changes to be made to the OS from the limited account, which means its impossible for a virus to infect the OS

That really isn't true, you know. It is programmatically simple to elevate beyond the current user status. You might stop some of the script kiddies, but any serious hacker can elevate a win box with ease.

63 posted on 07/18/2014 3:55:35 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: roamer_1

“That really isn’t true, you know. It is programmatically simple to elevate beyond the current user status. You might stop some of the script kiddies, but any serious hacker can elevate a win box with ease. “

Nope. Such elevation is completely impossible from a limited user account unless the user allows it by typing in a password in response to a popup UAC request to allow such elevation. You don’t have a clue about what you are talking about. If it’s so easy, prove it by pointing me to a program that can do that.


64 posted on 07/18/2014 4:10:26 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Squawk 8888; familyop
My only problem with the disk is downloading it. Hard to do at 52K connect LOL. But there is a Book a Million about 20 miles away with several Linux variant magazines that have the disk inside them. You buy the magazine for $10-$15 and the free disk is yours. That should also be able to boot from disk shouldn't it?

I've gotten by almost 16 years on dial up. Not by choice but because no other means for service available except possibly Hughesnet. It would be difficult even for that. I have a ridge on three sides of my house and all but the northwest is blocked by it. Cell service in the summer is also hit and miss. Comcast is less than a half mile away and they have no intentions of expanding. I'm too far out for DSL and AT&T is trying to phase out landlines in the next decade or so.

65 posted on 07/18/2014 5:53:12 PM PDT by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: cva66snipe

My idiot BIL lives in rural Missouri and has a sat service named Wild Blue which seems to be fairly reliable.


66 posted on 07/18/2014 5:58:13 PM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: daniel1212
Classic Shell was one of the first things I did LOL. I do have Firefox and I'm using it more and more. IE has bugs in it that go all the way back to about IE7 I think. The incredible disappearing typing. For example typing a reply to a post. I go back to correct something and back space a few times then type and it types over & erases my work as I'm typing. That issue had disappeared in XP. I think I'll try Pale Moon also. Google I shy away from.

Libre Office saved me a lot of grief when I discovered a lot of my files could not be opened unless I paid an outrageous prices for Works per year.

Right now I'm also getting what I'm certain is false hits on Avast. Dell has an updater {Cloud Back Up} built in that for me is quite annoying as in 50-100MB upload annoying and I haven't figured out how to disable that. About a week ago it stopped uploading which is fine by me. Now it shows as W32:Dropper-Gen on Avast alert pop up. I have a chest full of them LOL. I ran about six different programs scanning it including Hitman Pro. The computer was fairly clean.

Really the only think about Tabs I dislike is being able to tell what Tab is what and the increased risk of closing all pages with one click. With Windows Tabs I know where I'm at.

67 posted on 07/18/2014 6:14:15 PM PDT by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: nascarnation

Yea I think it’s actually the same company as Hughesnet. I’ve heard of it. I’d have to get an installer up here to see if they could get a clear signal and if not how many trees would have to come down. I live on the side of a wooded ridge in a horse shoe shaped hollow surrounding me. I’m about 150 ft or so elevation wise below the top.


68 posted on 07/18/2014 7:05:08 PM PDT by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: cva66snipe; Squawk 8888
"My only problem with the disk is downloading it. Hard to do at 52K connect LOL."

There are some downloaders (free packages, programs) that allow pauses and resumes. There's a Firefox browser extension that's easy to use, and it's called DownThemAll. There are others.

"But there is a Book a Million about 20 miles away with several Linux variant magazines that have the disk inside them. You buy the magazine for $10-$15 and the free disk is yours. That should also be able to boot from disk shouldn't it?"

Yes. That should boot and work fine. But you might want to upgrade from the Net anyway, eventually, which brings us back to downloading much sometime.

You might check to see if there is a wireless Internet provider within ten miles or so. It's different from cellphone access and requires a small, easy to mount antennae with line of sight to the provider's relay (usually on a hill somewhere). Should be able to deliver 10 Mbps or more and shouldn't cost much.

VOIP phone service with that can run as little as $10 with such providers that have that to offer, too. I do it from over 20 miles, but this is a very high elevation (usually less atmospheric matter between here and there than in lower areas). Well, time to charge some batteries now. It's been very unusually cloudy, and the sky has been hugely smoked-up for days. Must be some fires to the west or something.


69 posted on 07/18/2014 7:34:56 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: familyop; cva66snipe

Wireless is definitely the way to go, and depending on the local topography the range can be surprisingly good. My astronomy club has an observatory in Blue Mountains, ON and we have a wireless link to an ISP in downtown Collingwood more than ~30km (20mi) away.

The VOIP phone is the way to go as well, because most plans include ludicrous long-distance minutes for $10-15 and unlimited for $20-25. If you don’t mind doing all the configuration and management yourself, you can get phone service for $1.00 per month plus one cent per minute for all calls in North America. My local and 1-800 numbers cost me a total of $2.50/month plus talk time.

Another option if you can’t get a CD is to drive to a public library or a coffee shop in the nearest town. Most coffee shops don’t mind you hanging around if you order something every couple of hours. Go with an independent shop if you do that, though, because a lot of the chains will slow your connection if you do big downloads. OTOH some places have connections that are fast enough to download the CD in less than 30 minutes. As always, YMMV.


70 posted on 07/18/2014 8:45:10 PM PDT by Squawk 8888 (Lacrosse- Canada's national sport, like hockey only violent)
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To: daniel1212

Just skimmed the Pale Moon site- is it a 64-bit Firefox build for Windows? I went with Waterfox when Firefox wouldn’t play nice with Win8 and it’s been glitch-free since version 28 (prior versions couldn’t auto-update in Win8.1).


71 posted on 07/18/2014 8:50:22 PM PDT by Squawk 8888 (Lacrosse- Canada's national sport, like hockey only violent)
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To: nascarnation

Satellite service is ideal for just about everything except gaming. For virtually all other it’s usually the most economical off-the-grid option.

The reason satellite connections are bad for gaming is the speed of light; the round trip from earth to orbit will be a minimum of 180 milliseconds and up to half a second depending on your location and the position of the satellite. That can be an eternity for any online games that require fast reaction times.


72 posted on 07/18/2014 9:03:21 PM PDT by Squawk 8888 (Lacrosse- Canada's national sport, like hockey only violent)
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To: Squawk 8888; familyop
I checked into wireless a few years ago and nothing was available yet. If I was on top of the ridge I'd have lots of choices. Knoxville is to my south and I'm on the north side of the ridge. I'm guessing the closest place there would be a wireless set up line of site is about 15 miles northeast.

I used to play around with police scanners a lot and had two outdoor antennas both had amps on them One was Omni directional no gain except through my 10 db amp. The other was an old UHF/VHF TV antenna {redneck Yagi} that I built a bracket for to put the elements straight up and down. With that one I could pick up police in Indiana on lower VHF range but nothing even 15 miles behind me in Knoxville. That's where the major tower farms are.

I'm up high enough though that if anything is north west of me I should be able to get it and I know where most of the towers are.

I gotta keep one land line for medical reasons. I have two one is for the computer. My wife has serious health issues and the phone has to be simple, reliable, and work during loss of utility power. She picks up the phone hits one button and calls my cell when I'm out.

73 posted on 07/18/2014 9:18:45 PM PDT by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: Squawk 8888
Just skimmed the Pale Moon site- is it a 64-bit Firefox build for Windows? I went with Waterfox when Firefox wouldn’t play nice with Win8 and it’s been glitch-free since version 28

Pale Moon has a 64 bit ver. but they say its buggy w/ extns. Best to stick w/ the 32 bit ver. as i have in a 64 bit PC.

74 posted on 07/18/2014 9:23:14 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

My Windows XP just got new patches on Patch Tuesday


75 posted on 07/18/2014 9:32:01 PM PDT by Cyman (We have to pass it to see what's in it= definition of stool sample)
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To: HalfFull
"Extended Support is not offered for Consumer and Multimedia products"

I see what you are saying, but...

Microsoft Support Lifecycle for Windows 7

Extended support for all versions of Windows 7 ends 1/14/2020. That includes Windows 7 Home Premium, which is not intended for business use.

76 posted on 07/18/2014 11:26:33 PM PDT by TChad (The Obamacare motto: Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori.)
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To: Cyman
My Windows XP just got new patches on Patch Tuesday

Does Microsoft identify your computer as an ATM?

77 posted on 07/18/2014 11:35:40 PM PDT by TChad (The Obamacare motto: Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori.)
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To: cva66snipe

I went from XP to a new Windows 7 machine in April. I absolutely didn’t want Windows 8.

Win7 doesn’t seem to be all that much different from XP. Maybe you could install Win 7.


78 posted on 07/18/2014 11:36:19 PM PDT by Pelham (California, what happens when you won't deport illegals)
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To: TChad
Of course, the fine print of the link you posted has a fine print link : The information on this page is subject to the Microsoft Policy Disclaimer and Change Notice. Return to this site periodically to review any such changes.

Opening the link reveals the below:

Notice About Online Policies and Similar Documents

Published: June 08, 2004

The information contained in the online policies and similar documents on this Web site represents the current view of Microsoft as of the date they are posted. Because we must respond to changing market conditions and are constantly evaluating how to better work with our customers and partners, such documents should not be interpreted as legally binding commitments, but rather as flexible documents subject to change occasionally. Similarly, we cannot guarantee that any information in such documents will be error-free or kept up to date after they are posted.

 

79 posted on 07/19/2014 4:11:37 AM PDT by HalfFull ("The only thing new is the history you don't know.")
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To: daniel1212

Thanks. I’m happy with my 64-bit but build so I’ll keep it.


80 posted on 07/19/2014 8:32:16 AM PDT by Squawk 8888 (Lacrosse- Canada's national sport, like hockey only violent)
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