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VANITY - Lifelong Baltimorean in Praise of Cleveland
Vanity | 7/14/2014 | Matthew Collins

Posted on 07/14/2014 8:27:56 AM PDT by scouter

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1 posted on 07/14/2014 8:27:56 AM PDT by scouter
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Wow. Martin Luther King Drive in Cleveland is a good place to visit, an historic street which pulls you into the history?

In too many places, Martin Luther King Drive or Blvd. is in the ghetto, and the conditions there hardly are an honor to King.


2 posted on 07/14/2014 8:32:36 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego (s)
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An unholy alliance of Democrats/unions/corrupt politicians effectively destroyed Cleveland turning much of it into a desolate ghost town.

As a native Clevelander, I hope and pray I will see major turnaround sometime in my lifetime.

Cleveland, for decades the butt of many jokes, rarely gets a break. But with both the RNC and LBJ announcements last week, they finally have something to cheer about.

Good luck and God bless Cleveland always.

It truly was a great city at one time.


3 posted on 07/14/2014 8:33:18 AM PDT by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: scouter; cripplecreek

I grew up around detroit. I say the same thing...for now. the downtown area from River-front to Mexican-town to Greek-town is one of the best neighborhood areas in the US (during daylight hours, natch).

Now, let’s talk about how you ^now^ have that LeBron fella...


4 posted on 07/14/2014 8:35:31 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alteration: The acronym explains the science.)
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THE MISTAKE BY THE LAKE!!!
5 posted on 07/14/2014 8:38:02 AM PDT by ken5050 ("One useless man is a shame, two are a law firm, three or more are a Congress".. John Adams)
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Lighten up. When was the last time you visited Cleveland?


6 posted on 07/14/2014 8:40:39 AM PDT by grania
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To: Dilbert San Diego
If you call this ghetto, then I'd really like to see where you live!

I haven't followed MLK Blvd. the whole way, but I'm referring to the part from University Circle north to the lake.

7 posted on 07/14/2014 8:40:44 AM PDT by scouter
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Yeah the Detroit riverfront and downtown are looking good these days. A total rework of Belle Isle is also underway.

http://www.hellyeahdetroit.com/2014/05/23/these-6-before-and-after-photos-show-you-just-how-far-the-detroit-riverfront-has-come/


8 posted on 07/14/2014 8:43:36 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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That’s probably why; I assure you it gets much more ghetto as you go south.

But I agree with you; Cleveland gets a bad rap and is a great choice for a convention. I hope the delegates try some Great Lakes Brewing Company beer and stop at Melt for a gourmet grilled cheese. :)


9 posted on 07/14/2014 8:44:11 AM PDT by pleasedontzotme
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
An unholy alliance of Democrats/unions/corrupt politicians effectively destroyed Cleveland turning much of it into a desolate ghost town.

I don't know about Cleveland's politics, but as a frequent visitor to the city, I have to say I love it and wish it the best. Baltimore suffers from the same triad of scourges: Democrats, unions, and corrupt politicians. But the city itself is still a great place to live, despite them. And anyone who says otherwise is only displaying their ignorance of the place. Either that, or they just don't like city life, which I can understand and respect. But as far as city life goes, both Baltimore and Cleveland are great places.

10 posted on 07/14/2014 8:45:40 AM PDT by scouter
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That’s probably why; I assure you it gets much more ghetto as you go south.

I did go south once, and I've gone through some pretty sketchy parts of the city (all cities have them). I never found one, though, that compares to some of the sketchy places in Baltimore.

But I'm not turned off by cities that have ghettos. That's just a reality of all cities, and you have to look beyond them to see what a city really offers. Cleveland should be proud of itself.

11 posted on 07/14/2014 8:48:28 AM PDT by scouter
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Both cities have done much in recent years to improve their waterfronts.


12 posted on 07/14/2014 8:49:24 AM PDT by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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Cleveland on my bucket list?

I'd probably enjoy visiting the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, but that it's not on my bucket list. I've been to Sun Studio in Memphis, though.

13 posted on 07/14/2014 8:54:13 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Mississippi!)
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PS...Thanks for the Ravens.


14 posted on 07/14/2014 8:57:15 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Night Hides Not
Cleveland on my bucket list?

Your loss!

15 posted on 07/14/2014 8:59:25 AM PDT by scouter
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PS...Thanks for the Ravens.

Don't thank me... I'm from Baltimore. I'm just a Baltimorean who loves Cleveland.

16 posted on 07/14/2014 9:00:40 AM PDT by scouter
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

We just need to bring the cities back under conservative control.

Much of the news out of Detroit is actually media spin based on good things happening. The recent blowup over water is a result of increasing privatization which is actually a good thing. The murder rate in Detroit has plummeted as well but nobody talks about it because its mostly a result of firearms freedom.


17 posted on 07/14/2014 9:20:36 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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Don’t forget to check out the Cuyahoga Nation Valley Park. It’s got a great bike path that goes pretty much from Cleveland to Akron. It is a converted towpath from the old canal.

Also, an hour drive away is Cedar Point Amusement park, and the Erie Islands!


18 posted on 07/14/2014 9:22:12 AM PDT by parmamenian
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I'm just a Baltimorean who loves Cleveland.

To each his own. My vacation travels have been focused on the Western US for the past couple of years. One of my favorite towns is Kanab, UT. From there, you're a two hour drive (max) from several National Parks, to include Zion and Bryce Canyon.

19 posted on 07/14/2014 9:23:54 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Mississippi!)
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Bringing Cleveland and Detroit back under conservative control will prove to be easier said than done as both cities have majority black populations which remains the Dems’ most loyal and overwhelming voting bloc.

Cleveland did have two GOP mayors when I lived there as a child, Ralph Perk and George Voinovich, but back in those days ethnic groups primarily from Eastern and Southern Europe were the dominant voting blocs. And Republicans could sometimes win their votes.


20 posted on 07/14/2014 9:31:38 AM PDT by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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