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World Cup preview: USA vs. Germany [ESPN 12:00 EDT]
WP ^ | June 26, 2014 | Michael Caley

Posted on 06/26/2014 7:23:27 AM PDT by 1rudeboy

Can two defensively suspect teams settle on a needed draw? If Team USA and Germany simply equal each other’s goal tallies, both sides will go through to the knockout rounds. In most cases, it would be expected that the two sides should line up in highly defensive formations and show little adventure, committing only the minimum number of men to any attack. If both sides play defensively, the draw will come regardless of any conspiracy.

The problem is, neither side is built to play the sort of boring, unadventurous soccer such a fixture requires. American fans are well aware of the struggles of Team USA to secure a back line, and Jurgen Klinsmann has settled on a system which uses two deep-lying and mostly defensive midfielders in Jermaine Jones and Kyle Beckerman to protect that back four.

Similarly, Germany is not the Germany of soccer legend, solid and hard-working and just good enough on set pieces to score one more goal than its opponent. Instead, under Jogi Loew Germany has been transformed into one of the most innovative and exciting attacking teams in the world. Playing a 4-3-3 without any true forward, the German system arguably includes either two or three false nines. As Mario Götze, Mesut Özil or Thomas Mueller drops out of the forward position and drags a defender out of position with him, one of the others or a midfielder like Sami Khedira will see the space that opens up and make a run toward the danger zone. These runs have produced many big chances already in the tournament, and the Germans have averaged three goals per match.

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Sports
KEYWORDS: fifa; germany; soccer; teamusa; us; usa; worldcup
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To: kabar

It’s a tough call, but we need more US players to play in the top European leagues.

I like the idea of MLS teams essentially becoming farm teams of the big Euro clubs, essentially they would serve as the developmental squads of the clubs.

So say for example half the team would consist of Manchester United developmental players, and the other half, domestic players.

A lot of other European domestic leagues face the same issues, like for example the best Polish players will generally play in the Bundesliga, rather than the domestic Polish league.


161 posted on 06/26/2014 12:01:44 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: kabar
Like you say, anything can happen including to Germany, if they meet Algeria, everyone thinks of 1982 when Algeria defeated West Germany only for Austria and West Germany to collude to a draw to deny Algeria advancing. Germany's got too many things like this in its history for all of your ranting about Germany. They haven't won Silverware since 1996.
162 posted on 06/26/2014 12:02:41 PM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: dfwgator
You may be right, but it looked to me they were still trying to score to the end. They were left vulnerable to counter attack as a result of their pressure, and if we were better in our attack, we might have tied it. Heck, that last minute was a wide open opportunity like I said before. We had several other opportunities we squandered with bad passes when it appeared they were pulling some of their defense up too far to support and overlap their offense.

Landon Donovan would have made a great sub for those last efforts, I'm still surprised he got the boot. As a sub in that situation we had today he could have been lethal.

163 posted on 06/26/2014 12:03:25 PM PDT by Lakeshark
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To: kabar

The best analogy I heard on this was from “Mike and Mike” on ESPN. They said it is like a golf tournament. You are up 5 strokes going into Sunday, you do not need to defeat the whole field on the last day, just shoot par and win the tournament.


164 posted on 06/26/2014 12:07:54 PM PDT by gusty
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To: gusty

Do you think right now Mexico fans care about how they got into the WC in the first place?


165 posted on 06/26/2014 12:18:38 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: BeadCounter

The good news is that Germany’s “Kryptonite”, Italy, is out of the tournament.


166 posted on 06/26/2014 12:19:52 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: 1rudeboy
World Cup Gifs
167 posted on 06/26/2014 12:21:12 PM PDT by Heartlander (We are all Rodeo Clowns now!)
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To: kabar

Yup. When the sport took hold in England and then spread around the world.

The poor Brits didn’t even make it to the semifinals this year and 2010 World Cup champion Spain is gone, too.


168 posted on 06/26/2014 12:23:51 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

I always wondered, if there was a combined Great Britain team, with all of the great Scottish players, and Northern Irish players, like Georgie Best, combined with the great England players, how many World Cups they could have won.


169 posted on 06/26/2014 12:25:06 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: goldstategop

Well the US can’t even win the World Baseball Classic.


170 posted on 06/26/2014 12:27:08 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: BeadCounter
Germany is consistently good and has been for a very long time. They have been in the top four in the World Cup 12 times compared to Brazil's 10. They have finished third in the last two World Cups. They have made the final eight 15 consecutive times. They have won three world cups and been runner-ups four times.

Algeria won't beat Germany this World Cup if Algeria makes it thru.

171 posted on 06/26/2014 12:27:10 PM PDT by kabar
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To: BeadCounter

They’re up against history.

Since the World Cup began in 1930, no European team has won when it was held in South America.

Brazil is the prohibitive undefeated favorite and will be tough to beat playing on the home turf.

If they come up short, Argentina, Uruguay and Mexico look good.


172 posted on 06/26/2014 12:27:37 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: gusty

Yep, it all about tactics. There was a reason why the US bench was in constant contact with what was happening between Ghana and Portugal.


173 posted on 06/26/2014 12:28:38 PM PDT by kabar
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To: goldstategop

Also the US has now made it out of their Group every time the tournament has been held outside of Europe.

I don’t think they’ve ever made it out while it has been held in Europe.


174 posted on 06/26/2014 12:29:23 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: kabar

Their team is good but not like the legendary German teams of the past.

If they manage to beat the historical black mark against Europe in Brazil, I will be shocked.


175 posted on 06/26/2014 12:30:03 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: kabar

I’m not arguing with the result. No one can, Germany was much the better side and deserved its win. What I am not seeing is improvement in the areas I feel the USA must have to win, especially without a true target man in Altidore’s absence. Specifically, that is control of the midfield and pace of the game (which should be a given in 4-5-1 but is not for this team), and more possession so you don’t wear yourself to a frazzle playing reactive defense.

I get that some of it is the opposition and I get that some of it is Dempsey being played out of his favored position. I get too that some of it has been the horrific play of Bradley. But I bet if you ask Klinsmann if he’s happy, you and I both know what he would say.

They have to improve.


176 posted on 06/26/2014 12:30:07 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg ("Compromise" means you've already decided you lost.)
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To: goldstategop

The World Cup didn’t start until 1930. The US finished third.


177 posted on 06/26/2014 12:30:14 PM PDT by kabar
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To: goldstategop

Brazil and Argentina are the favorites. Germany, France, and Holland will figure in the mix. Germany should meet France in the quarterfinal. Germany must then meet Brazil in the semifinal. Holland will probably play Argentina in the other semifinal.


178 posted on 06/26/2014 12:32:44 PM PDT by kabar
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To: dfwgator

“I always wondered, if there was a combined Great Britain team——————”


I think you mean United Kingdom

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179 posted on 06/26/2014 12:32:46 PM PDT by Mears
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To: Colonel_Flagg

The US has always relied on “Bend but don’t Break”


180 posted on 06/26/2014 12:34:50 PM PDT by dfwgator
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