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Stripper cars going extinct? Blame the seven-year loan
Motoramic/yahoo ^ | 6-30-14 | Steven Lang

Posted on 06/21/2014 10:04:44 AM PDT by TurboZamboni

The days when a bare-bones "stripper" car came with vinyl seats, rubber floor mats and no air conditioning are long gone.

Today, convenience and cold air come standard for all models, along with a long list of niceties that were once the sole domain of the loaded vehicle. A base Chevy Spark, as one example, offers aluminum wheels, ten standard airbags, power windows — even six months of OnStar service, in case you lock your keys in the car. On the surface, the new car market is offering better values than ever.

There is just one small problem with nearly all entry-level models of the modern day: You can't ever find em', and when you do, they usually come loaded with surprises. We may learn about that teaser of a price from the manufacturer's advertising, or the dealer supposedly suffering a bone-headed overstocking whose pain can be your gain. But actually finding that car is another matter entirely.

Recently, I searched for an absolute bare bones 2014 Nissan Versa S, base model. How many were there for the genuine manufacturer's drive-out price of under $13,000 in metro Atlanta? One. Just a single car to serve a metropolitan population of six million people.

Two weeks ago I walked over to a Mitsubishi dealer near Myrtle Beach, S.C. There were 20 Mirages on the lot, and out of those 20, there was one basic car with that ever so rare five-speed manual. The price: $12,500, before a whopping $1,995 surcharge for window tint. The old days of stain guards for carpeting and VIN etchings on the windows have been replaced with $700 processing fees, $800 destination charges, and $2,000 aftermarket trim packages with low-quality leather and fake wood made out of real plastic.

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KEYWORDS: base; carloans; cars; model; newcars; transportation; usedcars
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To: razorback-bert
I had to break down and buy a new car a couple of years ago after some surely well-intentioned youths played knockout game with my 2-yr-old car while I was sitting in it at a light.

All things considered, I got a good end-of-year deal and also bought a long-term service contract from the dealer which not only pays all basic service needs for many years, but also is transferable to my heir if I should croak first. Now, keeping the maintenance schedule is a breeze. They send me an email when it is time and I can make an appointment online. The car's dashboard even starts reminding me about 500 miles before time for the next checkup.

Paid cash and saved on interest as well; which will be fine unless we suddenly have a huge spike of inflation.

101 posted on 06/21/2014 11:06:59 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("The commenters are plenty but the thinkers are few." -- Walid Shoebat)
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To: deoetdoctrinae

me too. I miss my Dodge Dart.


102 posted on 06/21/2014 11:07:54 AM PDT by Blue Highway
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To: PGR88

I recently bought a 2002 Mazda Tribute with 76k miles on it in almost new like condition. Front seats had just a bit of wear. Paid $4,000 for it and it has everything but leather and a sun roof. I live in the Houston area, and a sun roof might be usable 3-5 days per year.

It had a salvage title, but only because the front bumper needed replacing. Now has a good title and the repairs were made before I bought.

Bought it off craigslist and had it inspected by a company that specializes in buyer inspections. Off a dealer lot, it would have cost at least $2,000 more.


103 posted on 06/21/2014 11:09:04 AM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: TurboZamboni

I always liked the GM cars which had the little AC vent centered under the steering wheel. We always called them (genitalia) coolers.


104 posted on 06/21/2014 11:09:15 AM PDT by tpmintx (Gun free zones are hunting preserves for unarmed people.)
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To: mcshot
I remember a push button starter like that.

I was going to say that I recall as a kid some old cars - by 1960s standards - that had a floor starter switch, but they were considered laughably obsolete while the dimmer switch on the floor was up-to-date. I still recall frantically doing the "dimmer switch stomp" trying to hit that thing as oncoming traffic was flashing their highs at me… and how it became such a small target at the wrong time was one of life's little mysteries.

Mr. niteowl 77

105 posted on 06/21/2014 11:09:35 AM PDT by niteowl77 (The five stages of Progressive persuasion: lecture, nudge, shove, arrest, liquidate.)
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To: SamAdams76
Why would anybody want a stripped down car with no luxuries?

Less to break or need repair, hence greater reliability.

And in the case of manual transmission, greater control.
106 posted on 06/21/2014 11:10:51 AM PDT by Nepeta
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To: oldtech

High-tech gizmos in the new cars — be careful what you wish for.

http://blog.chron.com/carsandtrucks/2014/06/high-tech-gizmos-in-the-new-cars-be-careful-what-you-ask-for/

Buyers of new cars are having more problems with them during the first three months of ownership than they did at this time last year because of the cars’ complicated technology systems, a new survey said today (June 18, 2014.)

The “initial quality study” released by J.D. Power, a market research and analysis firm, showed that the problems experienced by vehicle owners increased by about three percent over the year, largely because of the increased sophistication of the high-tech systems consumers demand in their cars but also find hard to use.

“Automakers are trying to give consumers the new features and technology they want without introducing additional quality problems into their vehicles,” said J.D. Power vice president David Sargent. “However, almost all automakers are struggling to do this flawlessly with some consumers indicating that the technology is hard to understand, difficult to use, or simply does not always works as designed.”


107 posted on 06/21/2014 11:12:10 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.-JFK)
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To: cripplecreek
That is so cute. Love your Dad's "ducktail" hairstyle. People who didn't have a natural curl had to use grease to get those sidesweeps and the curl in the front, too.


108 posted on 06/21/2014 11:13:26 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("The commenters are plenty but the thinkers are few." -- Walid Shoebat)
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To: cripplecreek

high beam floor switch.


109 posted on 06/21/2014 11:13:45 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: razorback-bert
youths played knockout game with my 2-yr-old car while I was sitting in it

That would be 20-year-old car. Story didn't make much sense otherwise.

110 posted on 06/21/2014 11:17:08 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("The commenters are plenty but the thinkers are few." -- Walid Shoebat)
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To: smokingfrog

Certain Mennonite Brethren communities are good markets for all black...no flash cars.


111 posted on 06/21/2014 11:17:18 AM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: Grams A
Never quite understood why you have to push the brake pedal in to move the transmission to drive or reverse.

You can blame Audi for that one.


112 posted on 06/21/2014 11:17:30 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("If you're litigating against nuns, you've probably done something wrong."-Ted Cruz)
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To: PGR88

i actually got an offer in the mail, to us, from a local dealer, wanting to buy our 2006 vehicle, as they are looking for several of our model to sell. tore it up.


113 posted on 06/21/2014 11:18:01 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: tpmintx
...little AC vent centered under the steering wheel. We always called them (genitalia) coolers.

Now that's funny!

114 posted on 06/21/2014 11:18:18 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("The commenters are plenty but the thinkers are few." -- Walid Shoebat)
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To: Veggie Todd

Heck, I can remember when the starter was on the floor.


115 posted on 06/21/2014 11:18:58 AM PDT by Procyon (Decentralize, degovernmentalize, deregulate, demonopolize, decredentialize, disentitle.)
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To: CrazyIvan

I wondered if there was anything left to pansy-fy on a Jeep after the Germans got done with it but Fiat is probably willing to give it a shot.

I’ll keep my ‘80 CJ with no top, no doors, manual trans and drain plugs in the floor.


116 posted on 06/21/2014 11:19:07 AM PDT by nodumbblonde ("I'm all for helping the helpless, but I don't give a rat's a** about the clueless." - Dennis Miller)
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To: Kenny Bunk

craigslist is where to find good used cars. gotta research and deal but there are good ones out there.


117 posted on 06/21/2014 11:21:00 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Mears

My 07 Infiniti has 24k..


118 posted on 06/21/2014 11:22:24 AM PDT by tje
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To: advertising guy

My boyfriend, (now hubby) came down to Louisiana from New Hampshire with a brand new Ford Ranger, no A/C. After a few years, he traded it in for a new truck, but I often wondered if the dealership realized that they got a truck with no air, which is unheard of in Louisiana.


119 posted on 06/21/2014 11:22:49 AM PDT by sportutegrl
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To: cripplecreek

Oh man, I’d forgotten about that. Very cool! Of course today it would be considered racist.


120 posted on 06/21/2014 11:24:07 AM PDT by Lake Living
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