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John Deere Tractor vs. 1800s Steam Tractor
WIMP ^ | 5/17/14 | WIMP

Posted on 05/17/2014 11:31:00 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER

A modern John Deere tractor with 850 horsepower plays tug of war with an 1800s era steam tractor that has about 18 horsepower. While both are capable of getting an honest day's work done, there is only one that proves its dominance through sheer power.

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TOPICS: Agriculture; Chit/Chat; History
KEYWORDS: power; steam; tractor
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

A Chessie working HARD!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2BoMFZcnDI


21 posted on 05/17/2014 12:36:13 PM PDT by crz
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To: Balding_Eagle
Hitch is angled enough to lift the back wheels up reducing traction significantly for the JD.

At the end of the video the JD tires had dug in sufficiently enough to give it plenty of traction but the old tractor continued to pull it thru the deepening trench.......

22 posted on 05/17/2014 12:36:42 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Under Reagan spring always arrived on time.....)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

That looks like the Palouse.


23 posted on 05/17/2014 12:41:32 PM PDT by Disambiguator (#hashtagline)
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To: Disambiguator

Right you are! See #13.


24 posted on 05/17/2014 12:43:55 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: JLS
JLS said: "I also wondered ..."

Probably. As you watch the steam tractor pull the JD, you notice that the JD is digging into the soil much more than the steam tractor.

Since the combination of the two tractors isn't accelerating very much, one would conclude that the forces generated by each tractor are roughly equal.

In the case of the JD, the force is being generated over what looks like a smaller area and is sufficient to make the soil fail, which reduces the pulling force. If the JD was equipped with wheels identical to the steam tractor, one might expect that the greater horsepower would prevail, if the gear ratios were identical and the weight of the tractors was the same; which they probably aren't.

My smaller JD tractor has many plastic parts, to reduce manufacturing expense, and gets its weight from the frame of the tractor, the water-filled larger wheels, and some weights added to each wheel. It may be that the steam tractor is just inherently heavy because it's virtually all metal.

25 posted on 05/17/2014 12:53:45 PM PDT by William Tell
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To: rdcbn

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWv5_QjLqcs


26 posted on 05/17/2014 12:55:02 PM PDT by crz
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
Those farming innovations made industrial-scale farming possible and led to the 95% reduction of labor needed to feed the world.

Yet farmers still lead the way when it comes to whining and crying for illegal alien slave labor.

27 posted on 05/17/2014 12:58:17 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Moonman62

hehe

Farmers who use that kind of tractor got no use for serfs. Californians, Floridians and Texans, by contrast...


28 posted on 05/17/2014 1:00:47 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: freeandfreezing

The steamer weighs probably double, if not triple what the hJohn Deere weighs, Then, with the steamer pulling UP on the drawbar at a 10-15 degree angle (depending on how deep the JD had gotten in), the Deere’s back wheels simply had NO weight on them. (As the JD was pulled up and out of the ditch, the JD back wheels were not even touching the ground!)

So, to run the JD. Get on. Turn key. Start work.
To run the steamer. Go to barn, begin warming the burner and set all boiler valves and feedwater. (Melt feedwater and boiler and feed pump and all valves and sightglasses if in winter.)
Start fire.
Grease and lubricate EVERYTHING!
Regulate fire, monitor steam pressure, temperature, boiler level, and boiler heat up rate.
Blow down all steam pipes as boiler and pipes keep heating up.
Maintain fire and temperature.
2 hours later.....
When at proper steam temperature, pressure, and feedrate, begin moving steamer tractor out of barn.
At each 1 hour of work, return to barn to load up and water and fuel.
Return to field to use more water and fuel.
Regrease and lubricate everything each hour stop period.


29 posted on 05/17/2014 1:02:32 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Everyone knows the first part f the saying, “Nothing runs like a Deere”. Few know the second part, Nothing smells like a John.” Thanks to the late Ed Johnson at the Ohio State Fair many years ago.


30 posted on 05/17/2014 1:03:45 PM PDT by Rannug ("all enemies, foreign and domestic")
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

I am a just few miles south but use the handle ‘Palousex86’ on other forums. Interesting what you say about the terrain challenges...very hilly and irregular contours. I like Dayton area and just to the east and south in Blue Mountains.


31 posted on 05/17/2014 1:05:39 PM PDT by steve86
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
You forgot a few critical steps. So, to run the JD. Get on. Set Air Conditioner cab temperature. Select playlist on your iPhone for today's work. Lock on GPS for precise nag. Turn key. Start work.
32 posted on 05/17/2014 1:07:00 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Amendment10
So which is greener, the John Deere tractor or the steam tractor?

Well, duh. The John Deere. They all come painted that way.

33 posted on 05/17/2014 1:07:24 PM PDT by tbpiper
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To: ProtectOurFreedom; Robert A. Cook, PE

“nav,” not “nag.”

Farmer’s wife is NOT in the cab.


34 posted on 05/17/2014 1:07:35 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Low end torque is worth something, especially for stump pulling.


35 posted on 05/17/2014 1:09:07 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: steve86

When I was a kid, we used to drive between Hayden, Moscow, and Ketchum all the time visiting relatives. Always enjoyed the all-day drive up and down Idaho and going through The Palouse. The highway departments have taken a lot of the fun out of the drives by building superhighways. We drove the old Lewiston Grade last summer for fun. It isn’t called the “Spiral Highway” for nothing!


36 posted on 05/17/2014 1:11:32 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
"old Lewiston Grade"

Scared my wife.

37 posted on 05/17/2014 1:14:56 PM PDT by steve86
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To: tbpiper; All
"Well, duh. The John Deere. They all come painted that way."

LOL :^)

38 posted on 05/17/2014 1:29:14 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

It isn’t power that did it, it was weight. Note also that the John Deere was a four wheel drive equipped vehicle, but it was only running in two wheel drive (the front wheels weren’t spinning. The drivers intended the steam tractor to win.


39 posted on 05/17/2014 1:41:28 PM PDT by norwaypinesavage (The Stone Age didnÂ’t end because we ran out of stones)
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To: shove_it

Wow, what a picture!


40 posted on 05/17/2014 1:50:22 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (The media must be defeated any way it can be done.)
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