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To: PieterCasparzen
Actually, scientists dismiss things out of hand all of the time, especially those things which go against the known nature of the universe without any sort of reproducible or observable evidence. If I told a biologist that I saw a leprechaun, it wouldn't be considered evidence any more than an astrophysicist reading the "evidence" that the sun stood still in the sky so Joshua could finish his battle.

I'm not questioning that eyewitness testimony is often considered evidence, but rarely are court decisions made solely on eyewitness testimony, and it is very often unreliable and contradictory. I'm also not aware of any court decision based on testimony from anonymous authors who lived thousands of years ago, nor am I aware of any court decision in the modern era that found a supernatural claim to be true. Abigail Williams' testimony about being hexed was considered evidence at the time, but luckily we're not as credulous as they were in Salem or in the Iron Age.

Fire tornadoes are interesting in that they exist, as do burning bushes and red tides. But this type of faux open mindedness doesn't lend itself to how we make determinations about the nature of the universe today. There is some evidence that stands up to scrutiny, some that doesn't, and some that isn't really evidence at all and can be dismissed out of hand.

I would still love to see evidence of Matthew 27:52, but this never gets mentioned or defended by theists despite claims of Biblical historical and archaeological "accuracy", and for good reason.

515 posted on 05/31/2014 7:52:32 PM PDT by GunRunner
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To: GunRunner

The only evidence today of Matthew 27:52 is the testimony of Scripture.

It wouldn’t make much sense to include this in the writing if it weren’t true, would it ?

I mean, who would believe it ?

How have people continued to believe the Bible is all true, after thousands of years of scholarship ?

Matthew’s testimony is easy to believe for true believers.

But those who are not among the God’s elect can not have true faith in God. To them, Scripture must seem like a giant conspiracy to “control the masses”.

Frequently, people who are most opposed to God’s Word, at some point in their lives, by grace through faith, they are saved.

Romans 8:29-30 “For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.”

We humans are not able to set up a planet; we think we know how things work, but we know so precious little.

Proverbs 3:19 “The Lord by wisdom hath founded the earth; by understanding hath he established the heavens.”

Job 26:7 “He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, and hangeth the earth upon nothing.”

Humans can’t possibly understand the mind of God, nor can we fully understand the world around us. Those whom God wills are counted among God’s elect children; all others are hopeless in eternity. Having no excuse for rejecting God’s Word, in the end, they will get exactly what they asked for, eternal separation from God.

Ecclesiastes 9

“1 For all this I considered in my heart even to declare all this, that the righteous, and the wise, and their works, are in the hand of God: no man knoweth either love or hatred by all that is before them.

2 All things come alike to all: there is one event to the righteous, and to the wicked; to the good and to the clean, and to the unclean; to him that sacrificeth, and to him that sacrificeth not: as is the good, so is the sinner; and he that sweareth, as he that feareth an oath.

3 This is an evil among all things that are done under the sun, that there is one event unto all: yea, also the heart of the sons of men is full of evil, and madness is in their heart while they live, and after that they go to the dead.

4 For to him that is joined to all the living there is hope: for a living dog is better than a dead lion.

5 For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.

6 Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion for ever in any thing that is done under the sun.

7 Go thy way, eat thy bread with joy, and drink thy wine with a merry heart; for God now accepteth thy works.

8 Let thy garments be always white; and let thy head lack no ointment.

9 Live joyfully with the wife whom thou lovest all the days of the life of thy vanity, which he hath given thee under the sun, all the days of thy vanity: for that is thy portion in this life, and in thy labour which thou takest under the sun.

10 Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do it with thy might; for there is no work, nor device, nor knowledge, nor wisdom, in the grave, whither thou goest.

11 I returned, and saw under the sun, that the race is not to the swift, nor the battle to the strong, neither yet bread to the wise, nor yet riches to men of understanding, nor yet favour to men of skill; but time and chance happeneth to them all.

12 For man also knoweth not his time: as the fishes that are taken in an evil net, and as the birds that are caught in the snare; so are the sons of men snared in an evil time, when it falleth suddenly upon them.

13 This wisdom have I seen also under the sun, and it seemed great unto me:

14 There was a little city, and few men within it; and there came a great king against it, and besieged it, and built great bulwarks against it:

15 Now there was found in it a poor wise man, and he by his wisdom delivered the city; yet no man remembered that same poor man.

16 Then said I, Wisdom is better than strength: nevertheless the poor man’s wisdom is despised, and his words are not heard.

17 The words of wise men are heard in quiet more than the cry of him that ruleth among fools.

18 Wisdom is better than weapons of war: but one sinner destroyeth much good.”


519 posted on 05/31/2014 9:15:24 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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