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Why ‘Game Of Thrones’ Is The Most Frustrating Show On TV
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Posted on 04/15/2014 7:09:01 PM PDT by Perdogg

Don’t think this is a burial of Game of Thrones; it really is one of the best shows on TV right now. But “the best” and “frustrating” aren’t mutually exclusive, and there’s a lot Game of Thrones does that it could stand to stop doing. Like, for example…

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To: Mamzelle
The books are a ghastly bizarro-world imitation of the books of Tolkien

Actually I think of Martin as the anti-Tolkien - everything that is good and noble in Tolkien (and other High Fantasy books) is deliberately left out. Every character is deeply flawed, there is no good vs evil because everyone is evil, there is no romance, only tawdry sex. He can feel free to kill off anyone because there are no heroes. It's likely because Martin is a flaming leftist and thus only has evil in his heart. And yet the books are very good, though the last was less good - Martin is falling into the "stretch out the story to make an extra buck" trap that Robert Jordan also fell in. Martin is getting on in years - hope he doesn't die before he finishes the series llke Jordan did (though in Jordan's case it was finished by a technically better writer so it worked out fine).

21 posted on 04/15/2014 7:46:31 PM PDT by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite it's unfashionability)
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To: Mamzelle

The books have very little overt sex in them.
The discussion of sex in the books is not a bit out of line with what is normal in literary works, particularly of the realist sort. Sex is implied, or baldly discussed, but rarely if ever shown, and then without prurience. It is a very adult sort of treatment of life.
Consider Flaubert, Balzac, Zola or Hugo.

As for what HBO did, that is their doing and not essential to the work. The series would be substantially better with some editing of HBOs extra features.


22 posted on 04/15/2014 7:49:35 PM PDT by buwaya
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To: needmorePaine
At the end of Season 3, Stannis is talking about this vision of fighting great battles in the snow. You figure he is on his way north to fight the Others. Yet when Season 4 starts, he is at Dragonstone burning his allies alive.

btw, his wife is certifiably insane.

23 posted on 04/15/2014 7:50:52 PM PDT by Hoodat (Democrats - Opposing Equal Protection since 1828)
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To: Perdogg

Author of this article should stick to watching ‘Keeping Up with the Kardashians’!


24 posted on 04/15/2014 7:51:04 PM PDT by coldphoenix
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To: Hoodat

welllll I dont wanna spoil it for you.. just wait for a cpl of episodes


25 posted on 04/15/2014 7:52:07 PM PDT by coldphoenix
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To: TomGuy

Ah, so you haven’t seen the episode yet where Loras gets his sex change operation and then marries Sandor Clegane.


26 posted on 04/15/2014 7:53:05 PM PDT by Hoodat (Democrats - Opposing Equal Protection since 1828)
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To: Perdogg

Frustrating maybe but the ending of the latest episode was a most satisfying character resolution.


27 posted on 04/15/2014 7:53:20 PM PDT by Rebelbase (Tagline: optional, printed after your name on post)
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To: coldphoenix

Shall we offer opinions on who killed you-know-who?


28 posted on 04/15/2014 7:54:50 PM PDT by Hoodat (Democrats - Opposing Equal Protection since 1828)
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To: Hoodat
No kidding. She is a loon. That scene was a weak point in the episode. Davos mentioned something about one of the burned men--Stannis's brother-in-law--bringing ships and men. I assume that Stannis is gathering forces for the trip north.

The best part about that scene was Melisandre's talk with Stannis's daughter. She said something like "there is only one hell, and we are in it." It is hard to argue with her.
29 posted on 04/15/2014 7:59:11 PM PDT by needmorePaine
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To: Some Fat Guy in L.A.

It is a realist approach to fantasy, to make a sort of oxymoron. Martins people are real people, imperfect. And he has killed off some of the most upright.

Consider the Iliad. For all the gods and goddesses, magic and myths, it reads very much like a modern novel.
The best of literature is full of compelling but imperfect characters. In the Iliad the best man is killed and the most annoying man manages to eventually get over himself, at least a little.


30 posted on 04/15/2014 7:59:29 PM PDT by buwaya
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To: RayChuang88

Couldn’t agree more. Mammothly complex books wonderfully brought to the small screen. I am amazed at what they have done. Just one of the great shows.


31 posted on 04/15/2014 8:02:48 PM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: Some Fat Guy in L.A.
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32 posted on 04/15/2014 8:02:50 PM PDT by hoagy62 ("Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered..."-Thomas Paine. 1776)
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To: Rebelbase

Wasn’t it just! ; )


33 posted on 04/15/2014 8:04:29 PM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: Perdogg

To the positive, it’s a gorgeous series, from the locations to the costuming to the sets. It’s as close to perfect in casting as I’ve ever seen. The writing is first-rate, otherwise the very elaborate plot lines would devolve into gibberish.

To the negative, there is too much gratuitous sex that does not add a thing to the story. The most memorable, engaging characters all get killed off. It can be quite violent. It almost made me sick when Eddard Stark was beheaded, and not just because his was such an engaging, real character. It was also because the show lingered a little too long and lovingly on an incredibly upsetting and gory scene, one of many.

All that said, it’s the most awesome thing to hit tv that I’ve ever seen, I thought that with the first season and I still think so with the fourth having just begun. It’s beautiful and very affecting. Human weakness, greed, arrogance, scheming and murderous anger are on full display.

I watch it via On Demand with friends who have cable, I cut the cord years ago. I love the show, warts and all.


34 posted on 04/15/2014 8:04:47 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Perdogg

My kids call it: “Lord of the Rings without a plot.”


35 posted on 04/15/2014 8:06:41 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: needmorePaine
The best part about that scene was Melisandre's talk with Stannis's daughter. She said something like "there is only one hell, and we are in it." It is hard to argue with her.

That is aline straight out of the Tragical History of the Life and Death of Dr. Faustus" as spoken by Mephistopheles to Faustus.

Interesting

Best TV in a generation.

36 posted on 04/15/2014 8:08:16 PM PDT by corkoman
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To: Mamzelle

Not really. The story is sort of “The War of the Roses” in a fantasy setting. It’s the seriousness that the author puts into his writing that invites the Tolkein comparison.


37 posted on 04/15/2014 8:12:48 PM PDT by Little Pig (Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici.)
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To: Perdogg
Don’t think this is a burial of Game of Thrones; it really is one of the best shows on TV right now.

No, it isn't. The source material, at least for the first three books, is far better. The TV show is bad, and the worst moments are invariably when the TV story decides to strike off in it's own direction.

George Martin's books since the 3rd one have declined seriously in quality, to the point where I believe he doesn't know how to finish his story. But the first three books were outstanding entertainment, and the TV show has done them a real dis-service - and no, the fact that Martin has written some of the TV scripts doesn't change that, the man has obviously lost his ability to write just as completely as Jaime Lannister has.
38 posted on 04/15/2014 8:13:22 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: Perdogg

Well, I’m only on season 3, but I know by know that it’s just one long soap opera. With multiple non-intersecting storylines no episode will ever end on with a satisfying conclusion.


39 posted on 04/15/2014 8:19:15 PM PDT by eclecticEel ("The petty man forsakes what lies within his power and longs for what lies with Heaven." - Xunzi)
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To: eclecticEel

Arya Stark gets one early in season four.


40 posted on 04/15/2014 8:21:31 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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