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Cosmos with Neil deGrasse Tyson: Same Old Product, Bright New Packaging
Evolution News and Views ^ | March 10, 2014 | Casey Luskin

Posted on 03/10/2014 6:58:19 AM PDT by Heartlander

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To: Heartlander

Is Tyson a legit astrophysicist? Or an unworthy AA hack, ie, a Colin Powell of physics?


41 posted on 03/10/2014 9:09:04 AM PDT by montag813
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To: joseph20
Geo-centrism is not in the Bible and the Catholic Church has never made that claim.

Not in Genesis. But yes the Church most certainly did endorse the Ptolemaic system as a political move against the Protestant North, and did persecute Galileo for supporting Copernican theory. To suggest otherwise is silly. The Vatican documents are there.

42 posted on 03/10/2014 9:09:04 AM PDT by montag813
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To: dhs12345
Another excellent series from the late 70s early 80s: Connections with James Burke. I first watched both Connections and Cosmos on my black and white rabbit ear TV. Lol.

Ascent of Man and Civilisation are also indispensable.

43 posted on 03/10/2014 9:09:04 AM PDT by montag813
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To: stboz

They mentioned we have 8 planets there about.
Mickey is going to be really mad about that!


44 posted on 03/10/2014 9:18:39 AM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: montag813

I’ll check it out. Thank you!

“You have to know where you have come from to know where you are going.” :)


45 posted on 03/10/2014 9:26:34 AM PDT by dhs12345
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To: ZULU
Bruno was a maniac who was responsible for having priceless works of Renaissance art burned in the public square of Florance

That was Savonarola, not Bruno.

46 posted on 03/10/2014 9:27:19 AM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: wally_bert
I love Connections and The Day The Universe Changed.

The original "Connections" was a superb series. I've been trying to find it for some time now on video stream without success.

As for me, looks like I'll be skipping the "Cosmos" reboot. I've had some interest in it but if it looks like it will be the now-rote Christian-bashing, left-liberal lovefest it appears to be, I won't waste my time.

47 posted on 03/10/2014 9:28:23 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Some people meet their heroes. I raised mine. Go Army.)
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To: montag813

While the Catholic Church certainly persecuted Galileo for supporting Copernican theory, it was mostly after he had gone out of his way to insult Pope Urban VIII in Dialogue Concerning the Two Chief World Systems. Prior to that, he had the support of the Jesuits and had permission from both the Pope and the Inquisition to make his arguments in Dialogue. Effectively calling Pope Urban VIII simple minded was not an effective way to further Galileo’s views on cosmology.


48 posted on 03/10/2014 9:34:50 AM PDT by Jeff F
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To: Pecos
Physicists of all people should not rule out a deity.

Modern Physics is completely abstract and goes against “classical” common sense and what our senses tell us. And it keeps getting weirder and more abstract by the decade.

I wonder if it ever occurs to them that our perceptions of the world, including a mathematical equation to explain a physical entity, are not real in the physical sense.

49 posted on 03/10/2014 9:38:50 AM PDT by dhs12345
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To: PIF

Yeah the whole Bruno thing went on too long and was too lopsided.

Then the bit about using coal and imperiling the planet.

Along with a few other unscientific bull crap.

Of course it started out bad with Mr. I have to have my 2 cents in everything I have no clue about. What a narcisist gas bag a-hole. My wife muted it for me and I turned my back until she said it was safe. LOL


50 posted on 03/10/2014 9:45:27 AM PDT by SolidRedState (I used to think bizarro world was a fiction.)
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To: cripplecreek
"I don’t have a problem with scientists believing something different, I have a problem with scientists who go out of their way to be as insulting as possible."

Such hateful and arrogant people. I won't bother watching.

Interesting though that the woman says (paraphrasing) "ah, that's fox NEWS, which does in fact do all those things. This if Fox Network which makes the Simpsons and Family Guy!" If I were pitching my show as enlightened and high brow I wouldn't invoke those shows. Just sayin'.

51 posted on 03/10/2014 10:04:40 AM PDT by pepsi_junkie (Who is John Galt?)
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To: dhs12345
Physicists of all people should not rule out a deity.

Modern Physics is completely abstract and goes against “classical” common sense and what our senses tell us. And it keeps getting weirder and more abstract by the decade.

I wonder if it ever occurs to them that our perceptions of the world, including a mathematical equation to explain a physical entity, are not real in the physical sense.

I agree.

I've been following this issue for over ten years now and there seems to be some philosophical implications (regarding the above) that are having an impact on our society. It's the abstract, and peoples unquestioning of the uncertainty that modern Physics/science promotes as truth.

Science has transitioned from a material/reductionist exercise to a purely theoretical one that embraces ideas that are wholly unprovable.

The popularity of a show like "Ancient Aliens" is astounding. Interestingly enough, the show seems to avoid "Darwinian Evolution" in favor of an "Otherworldly" explanation.

The "Embrace of Uncertainty" in science extends into our culture and can be seen in their politics. They have virtually "NO Foundation" for belief in anything other than uncertainty itself.

52 posted on 03/10/2014 10:30:33 AM PDT by Zeneta (Thoughts in time and out of season.)
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To: pepsi_junkie; rktman; CedarDave

Looks like Homer Hickam had some problems with the show starting with the intro by Obama.

‘A little PC crept in’: ‘Rocket Boys’ author Homer Hickam annoyed by politicization in ‘Cosmos’

http://twitchy.com/2014/03/10/a-little-pc-crept-in-rocket-boys-author-homer-hickam-annoyed-by-politicization-in-cosmos/?utm_source=autotweet&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=twitter


53 posted on 03/10/2014 10:32:30 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: MUDDOG

Ooops. Sorry about that.


54 posted on 03/10/2014 10:38:51 AM PDT by ZULU (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: ZULU
No problem.

It didn't seem right when I read your post, so I looked it up.

55 posted on 03/10/2014 10:52:30 AM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: cripplecreek
I didn’t watch for one reason despite my love of this sort of thing. I didn’t watch because of this video of the show makers gleefully insulting Christians and conservatives, “Squirrel eating reactionary homophobes”.

They were insulting Fox News and its viewers.

They just had to insert their ugly, gratuitous political cheap shots into a non-political topic.

56 posted on 03/10/2014 10:52:43 AM PDT by EveningStar
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To: Zeneta
Here is a thought. Maybe a Deity is guiding Physicists and humanity. Divine inspiration?
57 posted on 03/10/2014 11:41:42 AM PDT by dhs12345
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To: All

this is another over rated media attention seeker. Even without the religious debate intrusion, it is a lost opportunity.

Another jj esque empty reboot.


58 posted on 03/10/2014 11:48:54 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: pepsi_junkie

including “creating star trek voyager” as a resume enhancer is rather foolish. If anything “voyager” is a double net negative.


59 posted on 03/10/2014 11:50:11 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Colonel_Flagg
I've been trying to find it for some time now on video stream without success.

YouTube.

60 posted on 03/10/2014 11:50:58 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Truth sounds like hate...to those who hate truth.)
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