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To: Diego1618

“Muslim” is a religion, not an ethnicity or a nationality. I was discussing a religious test for president.

“Jus Sanguinis” is not a requirement to be president. It is one method of acquiring citizenship.
According to Justice Antonin Scalia:
Justice Scalia: …” I mean, isn’t it clear that the natural born requirement in the Constitution was intended explicitly to exclude some Englishmen who had come here and spent some time here and then went back and raised their families in England?

They did not want that.

They wanted natural born Americans.”

Respondent’s Attorney:
[Ms.]. Davis: “Yes, by the same token…”

Justice Scalia: “That is jus soli, isn’t it?”

[Ms.] Davis: “By the same token, one could say that the provision would apply now to ensure that Congress can’t apply suspect classifications to keep certain individuals from aspiring to those offices.”

Justice Scalia: “Well, maybe.”
I’m just referring to the meaning of natural born within the Constitution.
I don’t think you’re disagreeing.
It requires jus soli, doesn’t it?”—From oral arguement, Tuan Ahn Nguyen v. INS (99-2071)

And from Founding Father, president and primary author of the Constitution James Madison: “It is an established maxim, that birth is a criterion of allegiance. Birth, however, derives its force sometimes from place, and sometimes from parentage; but, in general place is the most certain criterion; it is what applies in the United States. It will therefore be unnecessary to investigate any other.”—1789-House of Representatives


113 posted on 03/10/2014 8:48:34 AM PDT by Nero Germanicus (PALIN/CRUZ: 2016)
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To: Nero Germanicus

The quote you have from James Madison, would you be so kind to tell us what president or presidential candidate he was referring to?

As we now know, the first draft of constitution required born citizen. It was then changed to Natural born citizen.

As the author of the constitution he would know this, and used both terms when appropriate. Naturally.

Which term is he using in this quote you have posted?


118 posted on 03/10/2014 10:21:14 AM PDT by PA-RIVER
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