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Awfully dumb to get into an argument like the one he did. Certainly not a Martin/Zimmerman case where the decedent actually was trying to murder the victim. Having a loaded weapon imposes a huge obligation on its possessor only to discharge it if there's a real threat. If Dunn had just plugged his ears and lived with the irritation, he and his girl friend would have gone home to make love and live another day. I have a CCW permit and carry in my car all the time.
1 posted on 02/15/2014 3:24:49 PM PST by libstripper
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Sounds like they already convicted him of firing into the automobile and attempted murder. It may just be a question of causation. He’s an idiot. Sort of like the old dude who shot the man texting in the theater.


2 posted on 02/15/2014 3:27:08 PM PST by Mercat
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The problem is the firearm.

I would have used a bat, stick or boot, then followed up with the firearm.

4 posted on 02/15/2014 3:31:20 PM PST by elkfersupper
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I feel that there should be a “douchebag test” for anyone who wants to carry. That would cover this guy.

And then the Zimmerman types who need to play Manly Man need a “twitch” test.

Not taking Treyvon’s side. Read on.

Where I come from, “twitches” like Zimmerman abound: middle-aged white men, insecure, television-saturated and possessing failing personal lives. They’re unstable and dangerous.

When they meet up with a criminal up-and-comer like Treyvon...that’s what happens.

I could tell you some stories.


6 posted on 02/15/2014 3:32:26 PM PST by warchild9
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Tactically, this is fascinating.

To start with, practically he was facing *seven* charges, as for the first count, the jury could have reached a verdict for Murder 1, Murder 2 *or* Manslaughter.

Ordinarily I would suspect a “jury nullification” vote, but something is odd. On the other charges, the *attempted* murder charges of the other passengers, he could face 20 years on each charge.

And the jurors all agreed on those counts (likely not guilty). However, if just one juror had been nullifying the first count, the pro-conviction jurors could have “counter-nullified” the other charges, forcing them into a retrial as well.

They likely would have done so, if they were in a bad mood.

This makes me suspect that *most* of the jurors wanted to acquit on count 1, but just one or two demanded conviction.


7 posted on 02/15/2014 3:34:51 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (WoT News: Rantburg.com)
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From what I know about this case it sounds like the shooter went way,way,*way* over the line and deserves some very serious jail time...maybe even life.
8 posted on 02/15/2014 3:35:13 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Obama: "I can do whatever I want")
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Lots of good info here;
http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2014/02/14/dunn-trial-jurors-say-deadlocked-on-day-3-of-deliberations-will-return-tomorrow/

The decedent was getting out of the car, probably to beat down the shooter. He was shot in the legs first. Shooter claims he saw a gun. I don’t really know much, as I haven’t been following the case. One thing is certain though, at least in my mind, the shooter is a dumba$$. But it’s another Angels Corey case, and the prosecutors are pulling the same kinda stunts the pulled in the Zimmerman trial.


9 posted on 02/15/2014 3:38:47 PM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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Just call it the “white knock out game”


14 posted on 02/15/2014 3:48:37 PM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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In such situations I ask myself “do I want to fight over this”? If the answer is no I keep my mouth shut. I would bet in 9 out of ten of these loud music situations the punks would not only flip the complainer the bird but that at least one or two guys would get out of the car to do a beatdown.If I had a gun I would definitely keep my mouth shut, but technically there is nothing wrong with making a civil, polite request of another citizen. If that citizen responds with violence then THAT is another thing.
16 posted on 02/15/2014 3:49:27 PM PST by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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I wonder if NBC would be so quick to label the races of those involved had the roles been reversed.


22 posted on 02/15/2014 3:58:12 PM PST by bk1000 (A clear conscience is a sure sign of a poor memory)
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Should have “twitched?¿” three more times and avoided biased accessories. Where I come from I’m just sain.


27 posted on 02/15/2014 4:16:17 PM PST by Recompennation (Constitutional protection for all not ju st selectively for Democrats.)
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Dunn has just been found guilty on all counts except first degree murder, where the jury deadlocked. See:

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/mistrial-declared-murder-charge-loud-music-trial-n31231


36 posted on 02/15/2014 4:26:07 PM PST by libstripper (Asv)
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if you think urban yuts weren’t feeling immunity in playing the “knockout game”, just wait....this case will further encourage them to “step it up”.

there will be a sense of immunity going forward. I can crank my kanye up as loud as I want and nobody can do nothing to me!

the inner cities are literally becoming warzones.


47 posted on 02/15/2014 4:33:19 PM PST by ealgeone (obama, border)
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IHO, the jury did the right thing....state can and will retry on deadlocked count(as they should, but not 1st degree murder 2nd degree yes).
This Dunn guy is going away for a long time, as he should....judge better give Dunn the max allowed per guilty charge....


57 posted on 02/15/2014 4:41:52 PM PST by yield 2 the right
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Corey just said the defendant didn’t file to use the Stand Your Ground law??

Did I hear that right??


59 posted on 02/15/2014 4:42:55 PM PST by ealgeone (obama, border)
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Corey is grinning like the cat that swallowed the canary.

She is a very frustrating person to watch. She knows she’s on TV and is milking it.


60 posted on 02/15/2014 4:44:44 PM PST by ealgeone (obama, border)
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He should have claimed some kind of cognitive brain disfunction caused by the loud, pounding “music”.


62 posted on 02/15/2014 4:46:10 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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I’m a strong supporter of self defense and stand your ground laws, but I’m having a tough time making that connection here.


63 posted on 02/15/2014 4:46:50 PM PST by umgud (2A can't survive dem majorities)
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2nd degree murder seems open and shut, but how do they get a charge of 1st degree?

How did he have time to premeditate?


64 posted on 02/15/2014 4:47:36 PM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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over-under on when Obama speaks out on this case?


68 posted on 02/15/2014 4:52:29 PM PST by ealgeone (obama, border)
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I agree with almost everything you said. Plugging your ears does not keep the sound of a boom car out. The bass sound they put out makes your skull vibrate, and pounds your chest. When you consider that there are two cars between you and that sound, you know that the occupants of the boom car are losing their hearing fast.
69 posted on 02/15/2014 4:52:41 PM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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