[Ransomed]

“Most DMs today play it like it’s a miniatures game, and the 3rd and 4th edition reflect that lack of imagination by catering to the rules lawyers.”

That 3rd and 4th stuff doesn’t even seem like it is the same game from what I have seen about it. Some dude told me that the combat sometimes take 1-2 hours+ and you have to use a combat grid, I was like holy cow no wonder no kids are playing it in the library or on the bus any more. Somehow they thought it must be made into an even more dorky spectacle.

FReegards from the Isle of Dread

[PapaBear3625]

That 3rd and 4th stuff doesn’t even seem like it is the same game from what I have seen about it. Some dude told me that the combat sometimes take 1-2 hours+ and you have to use a combat grid, I was like holy cow no wonder no kids are playing it in the library or on the bus any more. Somehow they thought it must be made into an even more dorky spectacle.

Many of the people who otherwise would have been playing D&D are now instead playing online multiplayer computer games.

[Bryanw92]

>> Some dude told me that the combat sometimes take 1-2 hours+ and you have to use a combat grid

Yep. It’s horrible.

[naturalman1975]

Third edition is still reasonably recognisable and while Miniatures help they are not necessary. Fourth is really different, and personally I don’t like it.

I’ve been playing since before AD&D first came out - and a lots changed, but I do think the spirit is still there. Given absolute freedom of choice, I’ll play original AD&D, but currently I play and run 3.5 because that’s where most of the action is - that and Pathfinder.