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Amanda Knox Found Guilty of Murder By Italian Court
Yahoo News ^ | January 30, 2014 | PHOEBE NATANSON | Good Morning America

Posted on 01/30/2014 1:13:40 PM PST by Uncle Chip

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To: Scoutmaster
Just as the pro-Knox articles leave out the facts that make Knox look guilty, the Coulter article leaves out the facts that make Knox look innocent.

I'm sure that's true. But, Knox's change in alibis, especially her story that her boss (later determined to be innocent) committed the crime, sure make her look guilty.

301 posted on 01/31/2014 9:19:12 AM PST by Tired of Taxes
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To: Tired of Taxes
But, Knox's change in alibis, especially her story that her boss (later determined to be innocent) committed the crime, sure make her look guilty.

Have you even bothered to look at Rudy Guede's alibis???

And his DNA is all over the crime scene but not Knox's.

And he has already been convicted of the murder.

How come she didn't point to Rudy as the murderer if she was there with him at the time as prosecutors allege???

302 posted on 01/31/2014 9:28:41 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Tired of Taxes
Knox's change in alibis, especially her story that her boss (later determined to be innocent) committed the crime, sure make her look guilty.

I don't find Knox's identification of Patrick Lumumba as the killer to be exceptionally damaging. Knox had been interrogated by the police for 36 hours straight at the point she named Lumumba. I find Knox's story that the identification of Lumumba was coerced by the police believable.

To me, the more damaging story was the initial story that she spent the entire night (for the first time) at her boyfriend's place. That story was disproved by phone and text records and her boyfriend's testimony upon his own interrogation by the police.

303 posted on 01/31/2014 9:35:30 AM PST by Scoutmaster (I'd rather be at Philmont)
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To: nickcarraway

I had come to the conclusion she is innocent (based on what I read) however those who think she is guilty also have a compelling case..so I am not so sure

Its a war of words at this point

I have heard Mark Fuhrman thinks she is guilty but i cannot find anything in print with a direct quote,

...I respect Fuhrman’s opinion

Does anyone know what he has said about the case?


304 posted on 01/31/2014 9:41:43 AM PST by woofie
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To: Uncle Chip
Guede was found guilty of the crime.

We don't know if Knox and her boyfriend are innocent or guilty, too. But, as stated above, Knox's changing of her alibi does not make her appear innocent.

How come she didn't point to Rudy as the murderer if she was there with him at the time as prosecutors allege???

Well, IF she's guilty, maybe she didn't want to implicate the real killer because then she'd implicate herself...?

Why are you so sure that she's innocent?

305 posted on 01/31/2014 10:05:23 AM PST by Tired of Taxes
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To: Scoutmaster

Yes, exactly, maybe changing her alibi once can be explained by stress, pressure, trauma, etc. But, more than once makes her look like a liar.


306 posted on 01/31/2014 10:09:40 AM PST by Tired of Taxes
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To: woofie
On Fox News, Fuhrman said Knox had a hand in staging the crime scene and that staging a scene always means complicity. He said she was legally innocent (because it couldn't be proved) but factually guilty.

I can't tell you any more than that.

307 posted on 01/31/2014 10:12:38 AM PST by Scoutmaster (I'd rather be at Philmont)
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To: Tired of Taxes

Because ALL of the forensic evidence points to Rudy as the murderer and NONE of it points to Knox or Solecito despite the prosecution’s best efforts to try to forge some of it.


308 posted on 01/31/2014 10:15:05 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: nickcarraway

No, one doesn’t have to be conservative to be a hero to some conservatives. A victim of the right kind will do. Like widdle Amanda.


309 posted on 01/31/2014 10:30:51 AM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious! We reserve the right to serve refuse to anyone!)
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To: Scoutmaster

thanks


310 posted on 01/31/2014 11:47:27 AM PST by woofie
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To: Revolting cat!

well..... she looks good on paper


311 posted on 01/31/2014 11:48:42 AM PST by woofie
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To: Tired of Taxes

Have you read the story of her interrogation??? Perhaps you should —

http://www.injusticeinperugia.org/TheInterrogation.html


312 posted on 01/31/2014 12:35:16 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip
Because ALL of the forensic evidence points to Rudy as the murderer and NONE of it points to Knox or Solecito despite the prosecution’s best efforts to try to forge some of it.

I know the website you linked says that - and the website is an excellent source of information - but some of the information at the website is directly contradicted by the statements made by experts in the 400-page December 4-5, 2009, Sentence of the Court of Assizes of Perugia, available as a .pdf download from www.perugiamurderfile.org.

I don't know why there are inconsistencies between sites.

In the Sentence of the Court, an expert that Kercher's DNA was found on the blade of the kitchen knife found in Knox's boyfriend's apartment, with Knox's DNA on the handle. This is the same expert who identifies Guede's DNA on Kercher, on the bloody fingerprints, and elsewhere in Kercher's apartment.

The testimony about Kercher's DNA on the blade is directly contradictory to what I've read on so many pro-Knox websites and in so many pro-Knox stories.

The same expert identifies Knox's blood in the bathroom in which Kercher was assaulted. She identifies Sollecitor's DNA - and not Guede's DNA - on the bra clasp that was cut from Kercher's bra during the attack.

The clasp was found under the pillow placed under Kercher to facilitate the sexual assault after Kercher had been stabbed.

The issue we've wondered about - whether Kercher was, in fact, sexually assaulted - is addressed. Kercher showed signs of recent sexual activity and brusing and other injuries indicating she had been assaulted.

There's more about Knox's and Sollecito's DNA in the sentencing report.

All I can say is that some of the definitive statements in the website you linked are not supported by expert testimony in the Sentence of the Court.

I don't know what to think when one website that appears to be so professional, logical, and detailed contradicts experts in the Sentence of the Court.

313 posted on 01/31/2014 12:55:25 PM PST by Scoutmaster (I'd rather be at Philmont)
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To: Scoutmaster

Well part of what you do here is to throw out stuff that is debatable and disputable and subjective and arguable and go with that which both parties can agree upon and go with that.

And one of those is that Rudy’s DNA, which should not have been anywhere near the place, was all over the crime scene.

Start there and see where it gets you.


314 posted on 01/31/2014 1:08:59 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

Are you Amanda’s Uncle Chip?


315 posted on 01/31/2014 1:12:13 PM PST by EnquiringMind
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To: Uncle Chip
This is the fourth time Knox faced a verdict on the 2007 murder of her roommate

Keep trying until they get a conviction. How wonderful of a system they have.

316 posted on 01/31/2014 1:12:36 PM PST by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: EnquiringMind

No and I was not George Zimmerman’s either.

And who are you in all of this???


317 posted on 01/31/2014 1:16:31 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip
Here's a chart from the case in which Meredith Kercher's DNA (in black) is overlaid on the DNA on the knife blade from Knox's boyfriend's kitchen, with Knox's DNA on the handle.

The Project Justic experts supporting Knox say the match may simply be because of contamination.

318 posted on 01/31/2014 1:17:25 PM PST by Scoutmaster (I'd rather be at Philmont)
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To: Tired of Taxes

Its not that difficult to be in the wrong place at the wrong time, it happened to me once. Until it happens to you/anybody, its hard to convince authorities otherwise.

In my case it worked out, but could have easily gone the other way. Police get it in their head that you are the guy, doesn`t matter what you say.

In my case they just said sign here, had no idea what was written, just needed to get out of there

Now we are talking Italy, completely different ball game

I am whole heart idly convinced of her innocence.

If I was President of The USA, I would today address the press that as long as I was President, Amanda Knox has nothing to worry about, I would also make it known to Italian authorities that I was very unhappy with their 3rd world system


319 posted on 01/31/2014 1:18:30 PM PST by Friendofgeorge (Sarah Palin 2016 OR BUST)
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To: Uncle Chip
And one of those is that Rudy’s DNA, which should not have been anywhere near the place, was all over the crime scene.

Possibly.

Bear in mind the apartment was also Amanda's, and Rudy was a friend of Amanda's. Amanda knew Rudy before she knew Raffaele Sollecito.

I don't know whether Rudy Guede had ever been in the apartment before.

320 posted on 01/31/2014 1:20:58 PM PST by Scoutmaster (I'd rather be at Philmont)
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