Flyin High again...
And I am damn well an expert at many different forms of measurement, not just electrical.
Ooh, a one upmanship, you gonna unzip and tell us how big your brain is next?
Not for nothing but it might help to say what other forms of measurement you are an expert in unless you want us to assume that it includes whatever area this discussion goes to. Now you wouldn't use such a lame tactic, sound off like you got a pair.
I have no idea, and mostly don't care.
I'm a scientist and I follow the data, except when I don't. Nice Dodge, it got a hemi?
My guess is that it is how Rossi knew to do it. My take is that Rossi is not the best designer of control mechanisms. There is some evidence from other researchers that an oscillating field assists the LENR process.
When I started in electronics, I started off in D/C, you have to crawl before you can walk so he skips the method that allows simple math and goes deep requiring vector math to get near the correct number, sorry, no sale.
My guess is that it is how Rossi knew to do it. My take is that Rossi is not the best designer of control mechanisms. There is some evidence from other researchers that an oscillating field assists the LENR process.
As I said previously, he took a leap over the easy method, doesn't make sense. You might be on to something about oscillating fields seeing how his secret sauce is no longer mentioned.
Speculation, pure and simple.
Guilty as charged, but I have laid out a logical reason for my speculation,yes?
No, I wasn't "the one who said" that. Another case of you remembering incorrectly.
I don't really want to search through three years of posts but I'm pretty sure it was you who said the ideal method would be water bath calorimetry. But I'll take you at your word that it wasn't you . This might be a good time to say what other areas of measurement you're an expert in.
Uh, they stuck a tag of known emissivity on the side of the hot-cat. Problem was that it didn't "stick" through the whole run, but certainly sufficiently long to calibrate the IR. And as I recall, the assumptions they used were WORST CASE, not best.
To the net...
While Science Blog may not have the same cachet as http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/ snicker. Mining the article I found this nugget:
During the coil ON states, the instantaneous power absorbed by the E-Cat HT2 and the control box together was visible on the PCE-830 LCD display. This value, with some fluctuations in time, remained in any case within a range of 910-930 W. By checking the video image relevant to the PCE-830 LCD display, we were also able to estimate the length of the ON/OFF intervals: with reference to the entire duration of the test, the resistor coils were on for about 35% of the time, and off for the remaining 65%.
Wait, I thought they calculated 360 watts of power in, ah A/C math, so easy to misinterpret.
Oh what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive, Walter Scott.
And this matters why? There is no evidence that Levi was "bought" by Rossi. Again, pure speculation.
Don't be coy, you know exactly what I'm saying here. Levi is a friend of Rossi. I'm also an expert on human nature and no way was Levy, Rossi's friend going to sandbag Rossi's demo and I would go farther and speculate he's part of it. While it may not be impropriety, it sure smells like it.
I think it's wrong and not how science is done, you know like you used to do before selling part of your soul, I hope you got a good price, wait, you gave it away for free and you didn't even know it, awesome. You realize the more you rationalize this, the remaining pieces of your soul dies. Luckily for me, mine died a long time ago.
The observers had full access to all parts of the equipment, including the inside of the power box. Your whole case is speculation and assumptions.
The unit was running when they arrived. Take a gander at the link I posted.
Let's see, Rossi sets up the test and has it running when the 'independent' wink wink testers showed up.
From the link above:
“… the E-Cat HT was already running when the test began…” “…it was not possible to inspect the inside of the control box…”
Um, you were saying? Were you perhaps speculating? Everything you say is speculation and assumptions but it's ok when you do it, you're a professional.
Speaking of which, I assume you have a heavy duty degree that you spent a lot of money and time on and am rightly proud of it. So, what do you think of Rossi getting a PhD by mailing a check to a diploma mill? That feeling, it's cognitive dissonance, it's your brain trying to tell you you're on a fool's errand and I don't take you for a fool.
I design measurement instrumentation for a living. My PhD is in analytical chemistry. My background includes pretty much every chemical measurement available from atomic spectroscopy, many areas of molecular spectroscopy, mass spectroscopy, gas chromatography, many types of thermal analysis (including calorimetry), laser fluorescence, sensor design and development (got a R&D100 for that). I have also used most types of nuclear instrumentation (GM tubes, proportional counters, Na(Tl)I scintillation, Si-Li solid state devices, liquid scintillation. Spent a summer doing carbon age dating. Currently, I am part owner of my own company which does chemical analysis by microfluidics. Our biggest project was to design the microfluidics "engine" used in a soon-to-be deployed biowarfare instrument (got another R&D 100 for that one). That one got me into biochemical analysis (polymerase chain reaction) and others. We are currently at work on miniaturized autonomous instruments for deployment in oceanographic work for deployment on ship-board and later on buoys and "robotic divers.
That wide diversity of knowledge is why I went into analytical chemistry in the first place...there are lots of areas of technology that working in it let you dig deeply into.
I'm a scientist and I follow the data, except when I don't. Nice Dodge, it got a hemi?
Rossi set the system up the way he chose to. Why he made certain choices may have been a simple as the three phase circuit was the highest power one where he was working. I don't know, and short of emailing him no way to find out.
But at least one of the demos had an oscilloscope on the output of his control box monitoring the power feed to his reactor. This was one of the first two trials in Bologna. Said oscilloscope is not mentioned in the reports from those, but it was there and working, so the witnesses had access to the wave-form feeding the reactor.
"When I started in electronics, I started off in D/C, you have to crawl before you can walk so he skips the method that allows simple math and goes deep requiring vector math to get near the correct number, sorry, no sale.
Again, his choice. If you want to know....ask him.
"As I said previously, he took a leap over the easy method, doesn't make sense.
Again, his choice. It obviously made sense to him.
"Guilty as charged, but I have laid out a logical reason for my speculation,yes?
No.
"I don't really want to search through three years of posts but I'm pretty sure it was you who said the ideal method would be water bath calorimetry. But I'll take you at your word that it wasn't you . This might be a good time to say what other areas of measurement you're an expert in.
It wasn't me. I'm familiar with all the forms of calorimetry used, any of them can deliver the goods.
"During the coil ON states, the instantaneous power absorbed by the E-Cat HT2 and the control box together was visible on the PCE-830 LCD display. This value, with some fluctuations in time, remained in any case within a range of 910-930 W. By checking the video image relevant to the PCE-830 LCD display, we were also able to estimate the length of the ON/OFF intervals: with reference to the entire duration of the test, the resistor coils were on for about 35% of the time, and off for the remaining 65%.
What, exactly does this have to do with the calibration of the IR camera and how it was calibrated.
"Don't be coy, you know exactly what I'm saying here. Levi is a friend of Rossi.
No, Levi was a friend of FOCARDI. There is zip evidence that Rossi even knew Levi before the demonstration(s). They may well have become friends since.
"I'm also an expert on human nature and no way was Levy, Rossi's friend going to sandbag Rossi's demo and I would go farther and speculate he's part of it. While it may not be impropriety, it sure smells like it.
Oh, please. A key part of being a scientist is exactly to rise above your "human nature" and maintain a dispassionate and impartial scrutiny of the data. The only thing you "smell" is your upper lip.
"I think it's wrong and not how science is done, you know like you used to do before selling part of your soul, I hope you got a good price, wait, you gave it away for free and you didn't even know it, awesome. You realize the more you rationalize this, the remaining pieces of your soul dies. Luckily for me, mine died a long time ago.
Stupidity.
"“… the E-Cat HT was already running when the test began…” “…it was not possible to inspect the inside of the control box…”
For that single test. You conveniently forget that there were several demos, for which the observers "did" have full access to the control system.
"Um, you were saying? Were you perhaps speculating?
Uh, no. See above point. Unless you think Rossi re-designed his control system differently for every test.
"So, what do you think of Rossi getting a PhD by mailing a check to a diploma mill?"
Another social argument. I have no idea why he did. But it is basically irrelevant to analyzing the data from the different tests.
"That feeling, it's cognitive dissonance, it's your brain trying to tell you you're on a fool's errand and I don't take you for a fool."
Want to see a fool?? Look in your mirror.
I would go farther and speculate he’s part of it. While it may not be impropriety, it sure smells like it.
***Nice ever-widening conspiracy theory ya got there.
I think it’s wrong and not how science is done,
***Rossi aint a scientist, he’s an engineer with a product to bring to market. There appears to be a few others like him in LENR, aiming to go into production. Industry is ahead of science at this stage.