Posted on 01/21/2014 7:22:23 AM PST by mandaladon
The New York Police Department is receiving widespread criticism after officers injured an 84-year-old man—who doesn’t speak English and didn’t understand police orders—for the crime of jaywalking.
Kang Wong committed jaywalking at an Upper West Side intersection in New York City around 5 p.m. on Sunday, according to the New York Post. He is a resident of the area.
An officer soon approached him and tried to write him a ticket. But Wong, who speaks only broken English, didn’t understand what was happening, and continued walking away from the officer. When the officer tried to grab him, he pushed back. This prompted the fury of several cops, who descended on Wong and threw him against a wall. The elderly man came away from the encounter with a bloodied face. (RELATED: Cop was at fault in car crash, but guess who got blamed)
Wong was handcuffed and taken to the hospital and then the police station.
Wong’s 41-year-old son met his father at the station. He was shocked by what police had done.
“Oh, great! Beating up on an 84-year-old man for jaywalking,” said the son in a statement.
Later that night, Wong was released, but will face charges of jaywalking, resisting arrest, obstructing governmental administration and disorderly conduct.
The incident was witnessed by several reporters who were on-scene because a pedestrian had been killed when crossing the street hours earlier.
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I’m not sure that your rhetorical style is going to have the effect you are looking for.
Excusing this group of cops (who apparently needed backup to handle this 84 year old guy) by listing out of all the God-awful things cops have done to folks in recent memory looks more like an indictment than a defense.
I think the notion of proportionate response should make a comeback.
If you want to be treated with respect, don’t start a shoving match.
Period.
Age doesn’t give you a pass.
Not speaking the language doesn’t give you a pass.
There is zero sign that Mr. Wong was ever “disrespected”.
Because respect doesn’t preclude being brought to the ground when you initiate a shoving match with the cops.
Maybe your point is that you feel we shouldn’t have traffic laws, or that you feel traffic laws (specifically pedestrians not step out in front of cars on a busy street) should not be enforced? If that is where you are going say that outright.
The response was proportionate. The old man kept escalating the situation until he got hurt.
You sometimes can’t fix people who are determined to act stupid like mister Wong.
I didn’t say I condone it. I wasn’t there. But I have enough police experience to know there’s always more to the story. I don’t simply swallow the medias narrative hook, line, and sinker.
You and your like minded ilk are why we live the way we live. It is a choice we make. You have made yours.
Only a cop could call this a fight.
You'd probably prefer the term "police brutality" but you'd be wrong.
Is the basis for your certainty the news reports quoting the cops?
I didn’t think we yet had video of the event.
“Two wongs don’t make a right....”
Two Wongs don’t make a white...fixed it./sarc
“I didn’t say I condone it.”
Well, I do! There is really absolutely no justification for a cop assaulting an 84 year old non-English speaking person, none. For you to suggest that some “media narrative” makes any difference when you look at what happened, is incomprehensible to me. In my 73 years, I have watch the “metamorphosis” of LEO’s from people you could look to for some measure of protection, to a bunch of thugs who seemingly relish the idea that they can, and do, get away with this kind of abuse with impunity.
From my up close former relationship by reason of marriage to our town’s first chief of police I can tell you that no one should be allowed to remain in law enforcement their entire life. The kind of person these people become by reason of their “employment in law enforcement” is chilling. They loose all balance and perspective, treating everything that passes before them as a law enforcement problem and all people as lawbreakers. I have a Black friend who was, for ten years a cop with the Los Angles Police Department. He left because he could no longer be a party to the policies of abusing citizens as his primary job function. So, while there may well be some decent people in law enforcement, it isn’t the norm. I only hope that change takes place before the citizens take these situations into their own hands.
Sure. If the objective of City Hall is to curb pedestrian/automobile accidents I can think of a whole lot of creative ways to do this, without resorting to force and sanction. Does nobody in politics have any imagination any more?
If you have an area with a problem, flood the area with cops. Have the cops educate, cajole, spread good will. People don’t WANT to be hit by cars. Cars don’t WANT to hit peds. If you start from that perspective you could actually get willing compliance with people. Once you pull out sanction, force, boots and beatings you lose the willingness of people to comply. It hard to understand, it’s not rocket science, but it goes against the grain of how people think about groups of people.
The bottom line is that cops and City Hall need people to cooperate with them. At this point in time a vast chasm separates people, City Hall and cops. Each side looks at the other with well earned distrust. So City Hall rolls out the boots, clubs and sanction. Cops being cops are almost always happy to crack a head or two, and they don’t really care who’s head they crack.
The People just think F-You copper and do what they do when no cops are around.
Doesn’t ever seem to work does it?
No place for pro lifers, second ammendment advocates, Tea partiers, or elderly jaywalkers in New York.
No place for pro lifers, second ammendment advocates, Tea partiers, or elderly jaywalkers in New York.
I am elderly and can imagine myself being confused and disoriented when being yelled at by a policeman. Perhaps not to the extent of this 84 yo but I may get there. The police know that in today’s America, they must be feared in order that they can control the citizens.
As to the language, I am losing the languages I don’t daily use as I age. English is my only clear language now as the others are not often used.
This is yet another sign of the police state and of the societal impatience with the old who are considered a burden leaching off the youth.
Having grown up watching David Carradine in “Kung Fu,” I can understand the officers appehension & fear. This 84 old man could have been Master Poe!! If not maybe an under cover Shao Lin monk!! Best no take chances!! (Typed with extreme sarcasm!)
Having grown up watching David Carradine in “Kung Fu,” I can understand the officers appehension & fear. This 84 old man could have been Master Poe!! If not maybe an under cover Shao Lin monk!! Best no take chances!! (Typed with extreme sarcasm!)
Having grown up watching David Carradine in “Kung Fu,” I can understand the officers appehension & fear. This 84 old man could have been Master Poe!! If not maybe an under cover Shao Lin monk!! Best no take chances!! (Typed with extreme sarcasm!)
Having grown up watching David Carradine in “Kung Fu,” I can understand the officers appehension & fear. This 84 old man could have been Master Poe!! If not maybe an under cover Shao Lin monk!! Best no take chances!! (Typed with extreme sarcasm!)
Having grown up watching David Carradine in “Kung Fu,” I can understand the officers appehension & fear. This 84 old man could have been Master Poe!! If not maybe an under cover Shao Lin monk!! Best no take chances!! (Typed with extreme sarcasm!)
Having grown up watching David Carradine in “Kung Fu,” I can understand the officers appehension & fear. This 84 old man could have been Master Poe!! If not maybe an under cover Shao Lin monk!! Best no take chances!! (Typed with extreme sarcasm!)
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