Unfortunately, as in the case of con man Rossi, sometimes the gullible are highly educated people, even PhD physicists.
The situation is entirely analogous to that which we saw in the 1960's, 70's and 80's with claims by "parapsychologists" that ESP was real. On numerous occasions, people who should have known better were given bogus demonstrations of clock-starting, spoon-bending and other dubious psycho-kinetic phenomena and pronounced them "real." The usual subtext was "A person with my education and sophistication could not be fooled by a charlatan."
Yeah. Right.
When trained magicians were brought on the scene, these ESP demonstrations quickly yielded null results. Undeterred, psychic "researchers" claimed a psi effect that the presence of skeptics destroyed the abilities of practitioners to demonstrate the skill.
Yeah. Right.
Rossi managed to dupe a handful of physicists during one demonstration -- who did not really get to examine his apparatus, a fact to which they subsequently admitted. That doesn't stop Kevmo from repeatedly invoking the exaggeration that "independent researchers" have "verified" the E-Cat and other bogus devices such as this one. The usual defense is, of course, that trade secrets are involved which will be revealed as soon as the patents are finalized.
Yeah. Right.
Unfortunately, as in the case of con man Rossi,
***Rossi was convicted of Tax evasion, not fraud. Not that we can expect you to be aware of significant facts on things that are important to you. BTW, this isn’t a Rossi thread. You always bring it back to him, because you like to pile it on, as a bandwagon jumper. Otherwise, you’d be sticking to scientific arguments. We see precious few of them from you.
sometimes the gullible are highly educated people, even PhD physicists.
***Gosh, that sure sounds a lot like you. Let’s see how a bandwagon-jumping-gullible would approach such a subject. “There’s $hundredsofBillions at stake, so my bandwagon phycisist friends would lose their jobs if there’s anything to this LENR stuff. LENR guys have very few resources. So they are the ones to pick on, while I back up the bandwagon hot-fusion boys”. Yup, that’s a lot like how you argue. Not much value in it. Very little to further the science behind the effort, and with your particular predilection towards using freshman level classic fallacies, basically useless. Maybe you should go back on the guvmint teat whwere you were so happy.
When trained magicians were brought on the scene,
***Yeah, right. Let’s see how well you would do.
You have a resistor to measure. Electricity in, heat out. 100Watts in, 99 Watts of heat out. You verify the measurement for 6 continuous days.
Then someone hands you a black box resistor. You measure 100Watts electrical in, 150Watts heat out. You measure the volume, and if it were to have been filled with ANY Chemical (Like gasoline), it would burn out within 2 minutes, but you’re seeing the heat out for 20,000 minutes. You look for extra wires, external sources and find none. You invite 6 other colleagues to find them, to no avail.
What is the Energy Density of the first resistor compared to the second one? Come on, Mr. Advanced Science Degree. Even I can do this calculation.