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To: SunkenCiv

Loved him and the whole shebang until I found out we have him to thank for the entire ‘greenhouse effect’ BS - only because he couldn’t face being wrong about Venus NOT having a temperature like Earth AND THAT ITS SURFACE WAS MOLTEN!

So every time I hear ‘global warming’ I think of that weasel. His legacy is AL GORE and the greatest fraud perpetrated by the UN.


80 posted on 01/13/2014 5:45:17 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Fred Nerks; Swordmaker; RandallFlagg

He was a leftist demagogue, so it figures he’d attack Dr V — early attackers of Velikovsky like Harlow Shapley were similarly politically affiliated. When digging into defenders of Shapley’s position during the Shapley-Curtis debate, I figure I’ll find a leftie. Shapley led the campaign to get “Worlds In Collision” suppressed and removed from publication.

Curtis’ position was fairly conservatively stated, that the spiral nebulae were actually other galaxies, which is what he held the Milky Way to be. He was wrong about the size by one order of magnitude.

Shapley’s position was that nearly the entire visible universe is what we know as the Milky Way, and using a technique he helped pioneer, gave a size estimate for the MW about three times its actual size.

Whereas both of them were right about something or other in this debate, it remains mysterious to me that anyone could not see that Curtis was much more correct, so I find it reasonable to conclude that Shapley proponents are for the most part left-wing figurative bomb throwers.


92 posted on 01/14/2014 4:13:03 PM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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