Hawaii (and every other state) has shown NO allegience to the UNITED states of AMERICA as a nation of free men, but as a pawn in the game designed to enslave us all.
Those that refuse will be killed.
Hawaii was most certainly an illegal annexation. You simply cannot look at the history and not come away not seeing this. In terms of the sleaziness of it, it ranks up near the top.
It should have never been a state, if anything it should be an independent kingdom again, with us leasing military bases.
Let it go!
This would clear two liberal Senators and a largely commie Congressional delegation out of our government.
As a matter of fact, we should eject the entire group of northeastern states from the Union as well........and lock down the new border!
There are hundreds of billions of dollars invested in that island. Besides, if we grant them sovereignty, we'll still have to defend them for eternity.
They were a completely defenseless paradise at one of the most strategic locations on the planet. Their independence had a very short lifespan once war ships set sail from anywhere.
Obama is for it. Obama is against Alaska doing the same.
American Samoa would love more than anything else to be a State. You could remove Hawaii and put in Samoa, and you wouldn’t have to change the national flag or anything else.
Hawaii was like that too before they were a State. But the revisionists have rewritten everything in recent years.
It will be defacto part of the US, or part of China. True independence is not in the cards.
The best they could hope for would be legal separation, but under our security umbrella, like Micronesia. But even that opens the door for mischief from the Chinese. And that day is coming.
I actually think “independence” is the first shot.
One less blue state. Hasta la vista!
My sentiment? Get over it.
Hawaii is a sovereign state of the United States of America.
End of story.
Cut it loose. Move on.
Give it back to the Indians.
I’m all for it if they give up their representation in congress. Same goes for California.
Load the ass hats on a boat and float the ocean for life. Damn fools.
Replace them with Northern Colorado or West Maryland. Within a generation they’ll be owned by China or Japan.
The state that illegitimately gave us Barack Obama can go pound black volcanic sand. Cast them adrift. Accept refugees only if they’ll go work in the oil fields in North Dakota.
The Hawaiian people have a right to be free.
cut them and their two liberal senators lose.
Would an independent Hawaii keep the tradition of Kill Haole Day?
Otherwise, I loved my time in Hawaii, I have to say, and I was treated well by Hawaiians. And I’m generally sympathetic to those of aboriginal Hawaiian ancestry and curious as to why they didn’t, at the very least, have the status of the more prominent American Indian tribes as far as lands reserved. And, even if I weren’t, I’d want better for Eddie Aikau’s people.
I speak and read Hawaiian and have an insight into the history of Hawaii’s literacy - in 1871 whn Queen Emma and King Kamehameha 4th were the sovereigns Hawaiian people had a 90 per cent literacy rate - these days it’s 1% of Hawaiians who speak Hawaiian - which is actually a lot - and a great recovery from the near extinction of the language - however in 1993 - the hundredth year after the overthrow of the sovereignty - Bill Clinton by way of an official apology on behalf of the US Government held out the hand of rescue to the Hawaiian people - the only condition - that they start behaving like good little welfare scum - they took the bait since Clinton slyly suggested the imminent return of sovereignty to the Hawaiian people in the grand proclamation of apology by the United States... and the next day many Hawaiians walked off their jobs... convinced sovereignty packaged as a fee ride - was imminent - and the rest has been downhill all the way...
Queen Emma was a class act - when her husband Kamehameha 4th died she sought to succeed him as sovereign - which was by election I think at the time under the Constitution - instead Kalakaua took the reigns - with his wife Kapiolani (a real piece of work) - and Kalakaua being somewhat stupid set some themes in place for Waikiki and for the tourism industry to a certain extent that continue til today - 1) Hawaii as a party location and 2) saliently, inebriation...
being inebriated much of the time himself allowed a gradual chipping away at the independence til upon his passing, when he was succeeded by his sister - a songwriter and emotional blackmailer - Liliuokalani - became Queen
shortly after some time elapsed, the sovereignty was overthrown on Liliuokalani’s watch... there was armed resistance until she declared a KAPU prohibiting violent resistance by the Hawaiian people, thus unnaturally stopping the process before a decisive conclusion - leaving the question of whether the islands were overthrown or somehow ceded passively to foment forever after...
on Maui the white hippies who moved there wearing love beads - around 1987 took off their love beads and got into the get rich quick in real estate game with cultish fervor and in 20 years what had been an agricultural economy bound together by the force of aloha was been replaced with a way of life dominated by white aggression for real estate... along with public condict that is now uncivil at best... in an environment of no aloha...
on top of this there is now crystal methedrine everywhere
and the racism on the part of the Hawaiian people is edgy and nasty in a way it never was when the aloha spirit was in the air
plus, the sharks are biting
I think that the loss of any true viability of a return of Hawaiian sovereignty to the Hawaiian people began to dissipate with the election of Kalakaua instead of Queen Emma to the throne
it is sad because so few people realize how brilliant the Hawaiian people were - and how fascinatingly brilliant the Hawaiian language is - or can be - more and more Hawaiian people must learn Hawaiian and assert Hawaiianess - then sovereignty will return from the roots