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To: butterdezillion; All

THIS JUST IN ON FREEPMAIL:

The decision whether to attempt to recover the plane, for now, is out of the hands of Makani Kai Air.

If the NTSB decides to attempt to recover, and it is feasible, they will. After our NTSB has “released” the wreckage; either recovered or unrecovered, Makani Kai Air, their insurers and financiers can decide what to do with the wreckage.

If they abandon it on the ocean floor, I guess U.S. maritime law regarding salvage will become operative.

The NTSB is the independent federal agency responsible for investigating the Hawaii aircraft accident in which Fuddy died.

“The NTSB originated in the Air Commerce Act of 1926, in which the U.S. Congress charged the U.S. Department of Commerce with investigating the causes of aircraft accidents. Later, that responsibility was given to the Civil Aeronautics Board’s Bureau of Aviation Safety, when it was created in 1940.

“In 1967, Congress consolidated all transportation agencies into a new U.S. Department of Transportation (DOT) and established the NTSB as an independent agency placed within the DOT for administrative purposes. In creating the NTSB, Congress envisioned that a single organization with a clearly defined mission could more effectively promote a higher level of safety in the transportation system than the individual modal agencies working separately. Since 1967, the NTSB has investigated accidents in the aviation, highway, marine, pipeline, and railroad modes, as well as accidents related to the transportation of hazardous materials.

“In 1974, Congress reestablished the NTSB as a completely separate entity, outside the DOT, reasoning that “...No federal agency can properly perform such (investigatory) functions unless it is totally separate and independent from any other ... agency of the United States.” Because the DOT has broad operational and regulatory responsibilities that affect the safety, adequacy, and efficiency of the transportation system, and transportation accidents may suggest deficiencies in that system, the NTSB’s independence was deemed necessary for proper oversight. The NTSB, which has no authority to regulate, fund, or be directly involved in the operation of any mode of transportation, conducts investigations and makes recommendations from an objective viewpoint.” http://www.ntsb.gov/about/history.html

See http://www.ntsb.gov/investigations/process.html and NTSB 830 which describes the regulatory process: http://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx?tpl=/ecfrbrowse/Title49/49cfr830_main_02.tpl

NTSB @NTSB
NTSB investigating Hawaii crash of Cessna 208 into ocean shortly after takeoff from Kalaupapa Airport.
10:32 PM Dec 11th

But, the lack of additional NTSB action three days after the accident already is disturbing.

No Preliminary finding has yet been issued, nor has the accident been added to the NTSB monthly report of aviation accidents.
http://www.ntsb.gov/aviationquery/AccList.aspx?month=12&year=2013

Nor has it been added to the list of current investigations: http://www.ntsb.gov/investigations/current.html

NTSB has issued no press releases: http://www.ntsb.gov/news/press_releases.html


301 posted on 12/15/2013 1:00:58 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: Fred Nerks

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302 posted on 12/15/2013 1:58:16 PM PST by Faith
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To: Fred Nerks

I wonder how long the NTSB usually takes to put incidents on their list, or to come up with a cause for crashes. They still don’t have anything for the Cessna engine failure off Maui on Oct 20, 2013.


308 posted on 12/15/2013 3:45:23 PM PST by butterdezillion (Free online faxing at http://faxzero.com/ Fax all your elected officials. Make DC listen.)
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To: Fred Nerks

The current Chair of the NTSB is Deborah Hersman, a Democrat and an Obama appointee.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deborah_Hersman


311 posted on 12/15/2013 4:08:11 PM PST by Nero Germanicus
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To: Fred Nerks; butterdezillion

Funeral Services Set for State Health Director

A formal procession will follow after Loretta Fuddy is brought back to Oahu from Molokai. Fuddy died after a plane crashed in waters off Kalaupapa Wednesday.
The ceremony will be conducted by the Honolulu Fire & Honolulu Police departments and Emergency Medical Services.
It will be held at the Castle and Cooke building off Lagoon Drive on Monday, December 16 at 9:45 a.m.
After the ceremony, the motorcade will proceed to Hawaiian Memorial Park in Kaneohe.
On Saturday, December 21, funeral services will be held at the Co-Cathedral of St. Teresa located in Kalihi with visitation from 9 a.m.-11 a.m. and a mass to follow.
The public is invited to attend both Monday and Saturday’s events.
The burial will be private.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:SgAqXE5NARkJ:www.khon2.com/web/khon2/news


315 posted on 12/15/2013 5:21:20 PM PST by Faith
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To: Fred Nerks; LucyT

If its not reported as an accident maybe it wasn’t an accident. The penalty for filing a false report is pretty steep. Just saying....


330 posted on 12/17/2013 9:54:02 AM PST by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then)
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