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400 thousand year old human mtDNA from Sima de los Huesos


1 posted on 12/04/2013 12:31:08 PM PST by Theoria
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To: Theoria

Fascinating. Thanks for posting.


2 posted on 12/04/2013 12:35:48 PM PST by Natufian (t)
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To: Theoria
But instead of neatly clarifying human evolution, the finding is adding new mysteries...

The mismatch between the anatomical and genetic evidence surprised the scientists, who are now rethinking human evolution over the past few hundred thousand years...

So? Just rewrite your facts. That's what the Global Warming bozo's do. When your latest "fact" contradicts the last "fact", then roll with it.

3 posted on 12/04/2013 12:37:14 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Theoria

Keep trying to figure out the mind of G-d without admitting it. The arrogance of man is...less than a piece of sand on G-d’s beach and has been right about absolutely nothing.


4 posted on 12/04/2013 12:39:04 PM PST by MestaMachine (My caps work. You gotta earn them.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Ping, possible interest?


5 posted on 12/04/2013 12:49:14 PM PST by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free..... Even robots will kill for it!)
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To: Theoria

after scientists faking 30 years of global warming research, studies and experiments do I trust anything scientists , the media , gov etc say ? NO


7 posted on 12/04/2013 12:55:07 PM PST by Democrat_media (Obama ordered IRS to rig 2012 election and must resign)
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To: Theoria

The DNA form King Tut seemed to indicate that he was Irish at first. It turned out that he is related to half of the male population of Europe destroying the out of Africa theory for the Pharaohs.


8 posted on 12/04/2013 12:55:33 PM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: Theoria

Bayesian statistical methods are prone to gross errors in a priori assumptions. They are nowhere near a gold standard.

The problem with these ‘evolutionary trees’ is that the more they are circulated without discounting them for obvious overreaching inferences, the more they become mainstream to the point that they are accepted as incontrovertible.

Radio carbon dating methods have also come under increased scrutiny with an increase in uncertainty and controversy.

Science in general is undergoing a process of renewing its strict disciplines as many of the ‘results’ of the latter part of last century’s science have been compromised by politics and ideology, i.e. Lysenkoism has returned with a vengeance.


9 posted on 12/04/2013 12:58:36 PM PST by Hostage (Be Breitbart!)
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To: Theoria
It's 30 below zero wind chill in the Norther USA

scientists , the media , government have been yelling “global warming” for 30 years

i don't believe anything the media says

I don't believe anything government says

I don't believe anything scientists say

may they all go jump in the lake

long live freedom and capitalism

10 posted on 12/04/2013 1:03:53 PM PST by Democrat_media (Obama ordered IRS to rig 2012 election and must resign)
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To: Theoria
Read more at nytimes.com ...

Definitely fascinating stuff, but... if it's in the New York Times, it's most probably communist propaganda or factual material heavily slanted toward communism. I'll wait for genuine science to show up.

11 posted on 12/04/2013 1:05:15 PM PST by Standing Wolf (No tyrant should ever be allowed to die of natural causes.)
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To: Theoria
It is possible, for example, that there are many extinct human populations that scientists have yet to discover. They might have interbred, swapping DNA.

Our ancestors sure were horny and not picky.:)

12 posted on 12/04/2013 1:26:27 PM PST by C19fan
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To: Theoria

This doesn’t surprise me. Scientists are just like everyone else.


14 posted on 12/04/2013 1:30:14 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Theoria

I have full faith that many won’t let any new discoveries get in the way of their cool story, bro.


15 posted on 12/04/2013 1:30:22 PM PST by OldNewYork (Biden '13. Impeach now.)
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To: Theoria
Excellent Article. Thanks

Denisova Hominin

Denisova hominins /dəˈniːsəvə/, or Denisovans, are Paleolithic-era members of a species of Homo or subspecies of Homo sapiens. In March 2010, scientists announced the discovery of a finger bone fragment of a juvenile female who lived about 41,000 years ago, found in the remote Denisova Cave in the Altai Mountains in Siberia, a cave which has also been inhabited by Neanderthals and modern humans.[1][2][3] Two teeth and a toe bone belonging to different members of the same population have since been reported. On 4 December 2013, scientists reported that they had retrieved ancient Denisova DNA from a hominin femur fossil found in Spain dating back about 400,000 years.[4]

Analysis of the mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) of the finger bone showed it to be genetically distinct from the mtDNAs of Neanderthals and modern humans.[5] Subsequent study of the nuclear genome from this specimen suggests that this group shares a common origin with Neanderthals, that they ranged from Siberia to Southeast Asia, and that they lived among and interbred with the ancestors of some present-day modern humans, with up to 6% of the DNA of Melanesians and Australian Aborigines deriving from Denisovans.[6][7] A comparison with the genome of a Neanderthal from the same cave revealed significant local interbreeding, with local Neanderthal DNA representing 17% of the Denisovan genome, while evidence was also detected of interbreeding with an as yet unidentified ancient human lineage.[8] Similar analysis of a toe bone discovered in 2011 is underway,[9] while analysis of DNA from two teeth found in different layers than the finger bone revealed an unexpected degree of mtDNA divergence among Denisovans

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20 posted on 12/04/2013 4:38:35 PM PST by blam
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To: Theoria
Sima de los Huesos in Spain


21 posted on 12/04/2013 5:04:38 PM PST by Dysart (Obamacare: "We are losing money on every subscriber-- but we will make it up in volume!")
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To: Theoria

courtesy ping.


34 posted on 12/05/2013 6:22:50 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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