Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Japan's WW II super-submarine found scuttled off Hawaii
cbcnews ^ | Posted: Dec 03, 2013 10:29 AM ET | Thomson Reuters

Posted on 12/03/2013 8:27:28 PM PST by Utilizer

Scientists plumbing the Pacific Ocean off the Hawaii coast have discovered a Second World War era Japanese submarine, a technological marvel that had been preparing to attack the Panama Canal before being scuttled by U.S. forces.

The 122-metre "Sen-Toku" class vessel — among the largest pre-nuclear submarines ever built — was found in August off the southwest coast of Oahu and had been missing since 1946, scientists at the University of Hawaii at Manoa said.

The I-400 and its sister ship, the I-401, which was found off Oahu in 2005, were able to travel one and a half times around the world without refuelling and could hold up to three folding-wing bombers that could be launched minutes after resurfacing, the scientists said.

The accidental discovery of the I-400, an aircraft-toting I-400 mega sub, on the rock- and debris-littered ocean floor, some 701 metres beneath the surface, has solved the mystery surrounding a ship long thought to be farther afield.

-snip-

U.S. forces sank the submarines and claimed to have no information on their precise location, in an apparent bid to prevent their technology falling into the hands of the Soviet Union, which had demanded the ships be returned to Japan.

(Excerpt) Read more at cbc.ca ...


TOPICS: History; Military/Veterans; Reference
KEYWORDS: hawaii; japan; littleknownhistory; navy; panamacanal; subs; worldwareleven; worldwartwo; wwii
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-66 next last
To: ClearCase_guy

agree on point but not in the spirit of things but then agin what you dont know means the government will hurt you


21 posted on 12/03/2013 8:46:41 PM PST by bigheadfred
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: mylife

Ah. The turkey class.


22 posted on 12/03/2013 8:47:25 PM PST by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com/2013/10/04/nicolae-hussein-obama/)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: Paladin2

*laugh* Thank you very much for the picture you posted. I have to admit however on a totally separate topic... I looked at the pic and immediately flashed on every news report I had viewed on the telly over the last decade with all the “rad” “dudes” wearing exactly the same style of baggy “shorts” at the beaches or in the public parks -and had to guffaw at how they somehow think it is now today’s height of fashion to be wearing such obviously identical attire. *grin*


23 posted on 12/03/2013 8:47:58 PM PST by Utilizer (Bacon A'kbar! - In world today are only peaceful people, and the mooslimbs trying to kill them-)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: GeronL

Extremely cool!

Sayonara!


24 posted on 12/03/2013 8:47:58 PM PST by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

To: ClearCase_guy

“One scuttles one’s own ship. The enemy doesn’t scuttle you — they sink you.”

Well, if we won the war, technically, they were surrendered, and were “ours”. In the not too distant past, it was fairly common for the victors to actually re-flag and utilize the spoils of war. These days, of course, these goodies generally can’t be integrated into the victor’s command/control/support systems and are destroyed or possibly sold/given to others.

I do know that after the war, a lot of people in the Navy came back with some Very Cool Stuff taken from ships about to be scrapped (like deck-mounted binoculars, which were awe-inspiring in their optical quality).


25 posted on 12/03/2013 8:49:36 PM PST by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Hardraade

It was a pretty cool concept.


26 posted on 12/03/2013 8:50:47 PM PST by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: Utilizer

Good Wikipedia article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I-400-class_submarine

Yamamoto’s brainchild. Two boats, the I-400 and I-401, were built and launched and later sunk as targets off Hawaii by the US Navy. A third, the I-402, was converted to a tanker submarine and was about to be launched when the war ended. It was sunk as a target off the Goto Islands in the East China Sea on 1 April 1946. A fourth, the I-404 (the I-403 was canceled), was 95% complete when the war ended. It was heavily damaged in an air raid on 28 July 1945 and later scuttled. It was salvaged and scrapped in 1952.


27 posted on 12/03/2013 8:54:59 PM PST by cynwoody
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: mylife
The French, Italians, US and British all played with the idea.


HMS M2

of course, nobody else thought of carrying multiple bombers

28 posted on 12/03/2013 8:57:53 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies]

To: Utilizer

bump


29 posted on 12/03/2013 9:00:06 PM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: mylife

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Submarine_aircraft_carrier

apparently there were more than just a couple of these, there were other types than carried one and then two planes.


30 posted on 12/03/2013 9:01:26 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: GeronL

Ballistic missiles changed everything.


31 posted on 12/03/2013 9:01:55 PM PST by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: mylife

yep


32 posted on 12/03/2013 9:03:56 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 31 | View Replies]

To: Utilizer
One in the submarine class remains missing.

Ragnar Danneskjold knows nothing about that.

33 posted on 12/03/2013 9:06:23 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: mylife

That is amazaing.

Thanks.


34 posted on 12/03/2013 9:06:30 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: Jet Jaguar

Geronl found some film of the scuttling.


35 posted on 12/03/2013 9:07:54 PM PST by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 34 | View Replies]

To: Utilizer
Thanks for posting that.

There was an immense amount of ocean dumping of really neat stuff after the war was over.

36 posted on 12/03/2013 9:16:12 PM PST by Cold Heart
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: mylife; GeronL

Thanks.


37 posted on 12/03/2013 9:26:27 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 35 | View Replies]

To: Utilizer
over the last decade with all the “rad” “dudes” wearing exactly the same style of baggy “shorts” at the beaches or in the public parks -and had to guffaw at how they somehow think it is now today’s height of fashion to be wearing such obviously identical attire

Yabbut, do they have those cool huge rubber boots to go with the shorts?

FWIW, loose shorts work very well in warm weather. It is the only attire I wear other than tee shirts and slippers (flip-flops for you mainland types).

Spend some time doing anything active in the desert in summer in long pants and then change to shorts.

All it will take to see the light. Had to work out at Ft Irwin in the summer a few years. It was insane how much more comfortable it was if you could expose some skin to help sweat evaporation.

38 posted on 12/03/2013 9:28:14 PM PST by doorgunner69
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: doorgunner69
I spent a lot of time in the Far East and the Pacific Islands. The attire I wore most was generally a thin shirt or tee-shirt of some kind since air-conditioning was only for the very rich who could afford personal generators for when the daily power brownouts and blackouts would kick in, and cutoff old jeans that had gotten too holey for normal wear, and were no more than a couple of inches below pocket level so the inner pocket pouches were in no danger of accidental damage.

Knee-length half-trousers were a waste of material and only the old fogeys that still wore mostly full-body "swimsuits" wore them. Think of all the original Bond movies and most especially the ones that came out in the seventies and that is the much-less heat-trapping styles that worked the best in such hot and humid environments.

39 posted on 12/03/2013 9:41:17 PM PST by Utilizer (Bacon A'kbar! - In world today are only peaceful people, and the mooslimbs trying to kill them-)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 38 | View Replies]

To: Cold Heart

Too true. I had heard of Midget subs before, but one capable of carrying a couple of flyable bombers and could go around the world one and a half times without refueling? Astounding.


40 posted on 12/03/2013 9:43:55 PM PST by Utilizer (Bacon A'kbar! - In world today are only peaceful people, and the mooslimbs trying to kill them-)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 36 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-66 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson