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To: SauronOfMordor
"Going through the links, one finally finds out that the passage is being read in English class. In that context, it makes some sense to stay on the subject and not cover history questions."

No it doesn't.

Knowledge cannot be compartmentalized into "subject" groups. True knowledge encompasses many disciplines and must be put into context with all other knowledge. This is a shallow example but one that comes readily to mind.... you can read a recipe for apple pie, but you can't possibly comprehend what an apple pie is if you do not have any idea what an apple is.

Back when I taught Elementary school in the 70's, we went to great lengths to coordinate the different subjects so that a particular lesson could be taught "cross-platform" so-to-speak, and encompass math, history, science, language, literature and perhaps even P.E. It made the lesson more real to the students as they could see that it touched them in many ways and had many applications in their lives. We used to sit in grade-level department meetings and come up with ideas of how we could achieve this.

But, you must understand that if people today are too knowledgeable about a particular subject, for instance an historical event, then it will be too difficult for government propagandists to rewrite the facts to their own evil benefits. It would be too difficult for them to redefine Lincoln's words to mean something entirely different.

22 posted on 12/01/2013 5:20:00 AM PST by Apple Pan Dowdy (... as American as Apple Pie)
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To: Apple Pan Dowdy

Bingo. Many of my seasoned teachers have compared CC to how they taught years ago but now have the added burden of the reporting and assessment that is so controversial. It is a fine fine line. I have for example ensured my teachers have access to a variety of historical documents based on grade level, biographies (even have preschool board books on presidents and Independence Day), immigration, dust bowl, how Washington works, how elections work, etc. I can go on and on and the schools are interested and buying from me. I do what I can to preview and ensure accuracy, identify bias and so on. My Social Studies teachers are collaborating with English to work with assorted mythologies as part of world history. I know of one grade working on learning about inventors in Social Studies while collaborating with the Science teacher on related experiments. My favorite was one entire school reading the Wizard of Oz. Each week there were activities like learning about weather, creating a tornado in a soda bottle, learning the georgraphy of the Midwest, learning all about the state of Kansas...this went on and on so that every subject area was hit in some fashion. The kids and teachers solved it. Yeah, CC is dangerous and controversial in many areas but not all schools are going down the path of changing history.


24 posted on 12/01/2013 5:38:11 AM PST by nurees (Oh...there is a NEW Mexico (Homer Simpson))
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